Plausible destinations for our vets?

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  1. SharpesTriumph

    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    Yes agreed they are trying to get rid of players helping to win and tank. I'd think they could move Thomas for value - yes rumors are they are shopping him for a pick.

    But then my idea was they could bring in Simons for nearly free basically just to sell some tickets, jack up shots, and try to increase his trade value so they can flip him next season. Blazers could get salary relief or a piece from a third team.

    If the Blazers can get more value from the Magic or somewhere for Simons that would be preferred. My idea was that Simons to Brooklyn (if Cam is gone) makes more sense than keeping Simons in PDX after the deadline where he is just in the way of our youth and is entitled to a role.
     
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    I think they would want us to take Caldwell Pope and his remaining three years. To offset the financial cost Portland could send them Thybulle and also send out about $5 million more than they bring in. I think they want Reath also. I would try Simons, Reath and Thybulle for Caldwell Pope, Anthony Black, Tristan Da Silva and a FRP.
     
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    Just ask everyone, I don’t know shit.
     
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    What if it took more? Would you give them a future 1st? On one hand, NO already benefits from the shorter contract and Ayton is the healthier player of the two (Despite how many games the Blazers have sat him) Zion is a huge risk, but what if he could finally stay healthy? I know....that seems unlikely, but it would be a game-changer if he did. We could sit him this year and still tank for a top pick. If we landed a top-two pick to go along with Clingan and Zion...........
     
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    LMAO that ain't happening, my friend. I wish.
     
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    Which part are you wishing for? Anthony Black and his 24% 3-point shooting? Even Scoot shoots better than that.
    Da Silva does nothing for me. That leaves the 31-year-old KCP who is having a poor year. Not sure what we can get for him.

    Sure the FRP has value but I don't see how the proposal is in the "LMAO" category.
     
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    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

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    Anthony Black is a fucking AMAZING defender, and is at least the passer Scoot is but several inches taller. There is no way they're giving him up.
     
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    Simons is almost a poor man’s Thomas. I wouldn’t see it on their end
     
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    Good.
     
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    I wouldn’t give a single asset for Zion. It’s either free or not worth it
     
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    I still wish we could do Lonzo for Anfernee, but sadly Chicago may not be stupid enough. Their defense is already league worst and Lonzo may be their best defender...
     
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    So you'll take Anthony Carter and like it.
     
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    Who does he play for again?
     
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    Because the entire game of basketball is dictated by a three point percentage? You think the Orlando Magic (A good, young team) are ready to give up on their last two 1st round picks, one of them being a lotto pick? Black has been a lot better. Easy to cherry pick stats when you're not actually watching. Black looks good.
     
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    Just say no to Zion -- I do not think much needs to be said about that cause it's kind of obvious WHY not to trade for him. I mean he is a more talented version of Ayton and to be honest I wonder if he has the passion cause he seems to have stagnated as a player.
     
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    I would trade Ayton and picks for the opportunity to try and rebuild Zion physically so he could stay on the floor and then to pair him, Shaedon and whoever we get in the draft... WOW just him, Shaedon and a good supporting cast would be hard for teams to deal with and Zion plays both ends of the court.

    He sure looks like he has the want to when I see him play and I think if you got the right new approach to getting his thigh muscles healthy and keeping them that way... Zion still has the opportunity to be a perineal All NBA player and future MVP.
     
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    Zion on paper looks like a risk worth taking and when that was a rumored trade when Dame was here i was for it but now not so much. I am not sure there are any good like OMG good trades out there to be honest so Cronin just needs to make sure that any trade he makes does not handicap this team in the future.
     
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    And they're probably expecting a haul.
     
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    Not to mention we would be taking on Caldwell-Pope's contract for three years. A 31 year old three point specialist who is shooting less than 30% on threes. Would probably need to buy him out if the trade ever happened.
     
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    On Robert Williams, from the Athletic: "When I've asked around about what other teams would consider a reasonable price point, I've gotten anything from a late first-rounder to a couple of second-rounders."
    "On a per-minute basis, there won't be another big available at the deadline as impactful as Williams. He's averaging 9.4 points and 5.6 rebounds with a steal and 1.6 blocks per game in just 18.5 minutes per contest. He's an utterly terrific defender across the board, having made an All-Defense team back in 2022 for the Celtics before injuries wiped out his next two seasons. He is elite in help defense, versatile in ball-screen coverages and communicates. He's also a perfect low-usage offensive big man. He finishes over 70 percent of his shots at the rim, but he also throws terrific short-roll passes and screens well at the top of actions for guards.

    Alas, the injuries are a significant worry. He's played just 41 games in the last two years and has never played more than 61 in a single season. He's already missed 18 of Portland's first 26 games this year, too, as his knees have never consistently held up. Teams will ask whether they can trust him to get to playoff time in a healthy state given his history. However, the price point is right, as when he's on the court, his $12.5 million contract is a steal with only one year remaining at $13.3 million. When I've asked around about what other teams would consider a reasonable price point, I've gotten anything from a late first-rounder to a couple of second-rounders. But with the team having used a draft pick this year on Donovan Clingan and Deandre Ayton seeming like a difficult sell on the trade market, it would make sense for the Blazers to explore Williams' market."
     
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