<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 15vinsane:</div><div class="quote_post">Your point is good but do you think that if NJ do not make playoffs, getting good trades next year is going to be harder as less quality players will want to join us. Although with jefferson back and carter settled in next year should be the one that we concentrate more. I was thinking about garnnett and if he might want to come to NJ, as kidd said that he would like to play with him. I'm just not sure what will happen?</div> Nah, I dont think making or not making the playoffs this year will effect what trades or free agent signings are made during the offseason cause everybody around the league knows that when healthy a trio of Kidd/Carter/Jefferson is going to be special, so that would be the selling point that Rod Thorn will be able to use to try to convince the high priced bigs to take less money to come here to NJ. Its more of a look at what we will be capable of doing in the upcoming years rather then trying to sell the point of making 4 straight playoff expereinces(if we make it this year) to lure a key free agent or two. And no KG is not possible, Minny is not looking to give him up ever, he isnt going to ask for a trade cause the Wolves are going to get a new cast around him during the offseason, so come training camp he will be happy again. And even if KG was on the move it would take a heck of alot to get him & we really wouldnt hasve enuff to offer. But he isnt going anywhere.
Ok so we just won tonight...Against the Bulls...Vince nearly had a triple-double..Now all we gotta do is get an 11-6 w/l record...
We pretty much dominated the pace of play against the Bulls tonight, we went back to the same type of zone action on defense that we used against Orlando in the win against the Magic, I guess Coach Frank sees something in that defensive look as well. I like it from several standpoints, 1) Of course it makes up for the fact that we are slow footed, but it also gives us more opportunites to create turnovers. And get out in a running style in the open court, something that has been lacking in our game plan all year. Also I think the Zone defense helps to keep our bigs out of serious foul trouble, Krstic, Collins especially are extremely foul prone, so the less they have to guard on ball in man to man situations in the half-court low post the better. So Iam really hoping that the Zone look continues to be successful as the season winds down.
not bad contributions from all around, good thing kidd had a pretty good game. Vince was hot in spurts, but when he wasn't shooting he was finding teammates. I loved the hustle from Uncle Cliffy, and Zoran had a good 8 minutes. Kidd found scalabrine for a couple baskets (I refuse to call him Veal, i've always thought it to be disgusting). 3 highlights from vince and another notch in the W column, i'm happy. playoff blueprint updated.
Can new jersey nets grab #8 spot? Few games left and the nets seem to not be out of playoff picture They are two and half game behind orlando. Do you think we have a chance of catching orlando? cuz the last few games they've been playing bad
2 and a half games out of the playoffs; its hard to argue that they can't make the playoffs, however, it does not look to me that philly or Indiana want to lose - and they do seem to have a firm grip on thier spots. The Nets will have to keeping wining and rely on some luck to get in. As for Orlando, Orlando no longer holds the eight spot. And they are on a loosing streak, so the Nets have no problem passing them.
Kdub has made an excelllent thread for all general playoff talk, I have renamed the thread. And it will be stickied at the top of the Nets Forum, so please do not start any other general playoff threads about the Nets making or not making the big show. This thread will be stickied until the Nets are out of the playoff race so please use it for all discussions, thanks-Henacy, JBB Mod
Yeah, they can. Anyone within decent striking distance can. The Knicks, Nets, Bucks, Pacers etc. It's wide open the question is watch them in the playoffs for a couple of weeks, or have a nice young talent to develop with.
Indiana has been keeping the last two spots, but they've been only been winning against bad teams to stay in their spot. The rest of their schedule is harder than the Nets' schedule, and I can't see them keeping their lead on the Nets as long as the Nets win the right games, especially with Jermaine O'Neal out. Orlando has been slipping and slipping fast. GM Weisbrod fired coach Johnny Davis, but that won't turn this club around because Davis wasn't the problem. He should have fired francis instead (ok ok, traded him) then they'll get somewhere. Davis had them winning earlier in the season, he shouldn't be fired off a silly losing streak. Philadelphia has a similar schedule to the Nets in terms of difficulty, but hasn't lived up to expectations after the trade. Philly still needs to go through a break-in period with webber before they can even think of having a fearsome duo with Allen Iverson. Fortunately for the Nets, Webber's lack of regular playing time is hampering this process and Nets seem to have already finished their break-in period with everyone knowing their roles and Kidd and VC co-teaching a class on chemistry. New Jersey should now try to aim for the 7th spot, and if they can edge by these very passable teams, it's theirs. Personally I'd love for the Nets to claim the 6th spot and kick Boston's green behind, grilling into their heads who the real Atlantic power is. <font size="1"> (thanks for the props henacy)</font>
I agree with you ingeneral kdub, but I do not think that the Nets will be able to edge out Philly. Philly is getting better every game and they will not let-up. When the Nets got Carter there was an adjustment period of about 10-15 games before the Nets were able to mount a win-streak. I think that philly will start winning game after game in about 5 games from now. I would not be suprised if Chicago falls out of the playoffs, btw. They seem to be starting on a loosing streak simular to the large ones they had earlier.
I think the Knicks have to be thrown into the equation as well. They have the same amount of losses as NJ, but they have played 3 less games. The Knicks are still as much in it as anyone else. You can even throw in Milwaukee and Toronto.
New Jersey got some good rest for their best players, carter and kidd, by putting away utah early in the third. Carter fueled an 11-point run in the third to put the game out of reach, and then scalabrine dashed any of utah's hopes of any sort of comeback with 6 straight points soon after. It may be disheartening to see that many teams in front of the Nets also won, including Boston, Philadelphia, and Indiana. However, key teams also lost, mainly Orlando and Chicago. Cleveland losing could help the Nets in the long run if they reach far enough. Not a bad night and the Nets play the Pacers in an upcoming home and home series that could be the two most pivotal games as the season ends.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting xpehbamxyu:</div><div class="quote_post">I agree with you ingeneral kdub, but I do not think that the Nets will be able to edge out Philly. Philly is getting better every game and they will not let-up. When the Nets got Carter there was an adjustment period of about 10-15 games before the Nets were able to mount a win-streak. I think that philly will start winning game after game in about 5 games from now. I would not be suprised if Chicago falls out of the playoffs, btw. They seem to be starting on a loosing streak simular to the large ones they had earlier.</div> Iam looking more for Indy to drop out then Philly, if Jermaine Oneal really is out for the rest of the season. I love Reggie's ablityt to step up & carry the load when the Pacers have needed it year after year. But honestly I dont see how they will have enuff as the season comes to an end, Stephen Jackson has been inconsistent since returning from suspension. And when you look for Jax to carry the type of scoring load he will have to carry for the rest of the year, then his shot selection becomes a major problem, right now the Pacers are going to need about 20 shots a game due to their lack of scores. And coming from Jax most of those will be bad shots. I love Stephen since 2000 when he was playing here for the KK injury. But dont want Stephen Jackson to be giving that much load and lee-way, you have to kind of keep him in cheack for him to truely be a plus for your team. So I dont really see much positves for the Pacers coming down the stretch. As far as Philly goes they have quite a few games coming up against quality Western Conference opponents, that means frontlines are going to come into play, which mean C-Webb better step up or they maybe in some trouble, cause Sam Dalembert & Rodney Rogers are only going to take you but so far. While the Nets dont have any Western elite left on the schedule, so as far as scheduling goes I think we have the edge over Philly for the rest of the way. But like T-Best said we cant get to caught up in worrying about what everyone else is doing and forget to handle our own business.
big big win over Indiana earlier today. Carter stepped up, Krstic was good, and Frank rotated his players very well.
extremely important win against indy. we need them out of the playoffs so we can get in, so it was extra sweet. it was a win we needed to get, since they are a weak team without JO right now. we got them when they still hadn't fully bounced back since his injury. VC played like we know him, and got a great double-double, and kidd just missed a triple double again. nenad is becoming a top 5 big man in the rookies, he's playing very solidly. good bench contribution again, we need them to get those 15-20 points a game and help out.
a tough win over Indiana has given the Net their longest win streak of the season. A win against Indiana couldn't have come at a better time, moving the Nets up and the Pacers down in a close playoff race.
kdub your name ise so cute and your avatar... And I wish Nets can beat Celtics.. Celtics is the most hard-to-beat team in the final nets schedule... JEFFERSON !! COME ON !! COME BACK !!
Another big win for the Nets tonight.... As we all know tonight was the 2nd game of the huge home & home series against a New Jersey opponent for the 8th seed in the playoffs, the Pacers. The Nets took the first game on Sunday, 94-85 brhind 30 point effort from Vince Carter. But inorder for it to truely be a successful push toward a playoff spot the Nets needed to win both games. Early it look like the Pacers, even without Jermaine Oneal were looking to deny the Nets of such success, behind the strong 1st half play of Miller, Jones & Jackson the Pacers took an 8point lead in to halftime. But in the 2nd half the Nets supporting cast step up to supply Vince with some help. New Jersey was able to get strong minutes from Travis Best off the bench along with Cliff Robinson. But the most impressive of the supporting cast had to be the play of Nenad Krstic, who displayed some pretty good post moves against Dale Davis a guy who has lasted a decade plus in this league simply off his ablity to defend the post. But Krstic made some nice moves against him. One move that stands out is a move Krstic made in the 2nd half, where Dale Davis tried to use the veteran move off backing away from the offensive player, when the offensive player looks for body contact on his spin move. A defensive tacket that Rick Mahorn use to do alot call "pulling the cheer" out on inexpereince post players. If you have followed the Nets closely this year, you will have noticed that defenders often catch Krstic with this move. And Nenad often travels or gets called with the charge. But tonight he was able to keep his body control. And didnt let tacket throw his game off, he still made his drop step moves. And looked good offensive, just another step in the growth of Nenad. Other then that nice win for the Nets, big win off course. Vince had what is begging to seem like a normal 30+ point effort, including a couple of nice back to the basket moves against Fred Jones in the forth quarter when the Nets went on a 15-3 run to overcome the Pacers lead. And stetch a lead of there own out to 7pts. New Jersey has some pretty solid test against decent Western Conference teams in the next two. While the Grizzlies arent a Western elite they have played excellent ball under Mike fratello. And now have Pau Gosal back so the Nets frontline will have to put in work for them to be successful. Also coming up on the schedule is the Timberwolves, who are the Western Conference version of Jersey sitting on the playoff door step, loooking to fight their way into an invite. So Jersey has got to find away to set it up even another notch. At worst 1-1 is where they need to be in these next 2.
i expect the nets to get the 7th spot philly is slipping idiani is doing extramemly bad and the magics lost frnacis for 3 game(2 left i think) and tugalo(sp?) who was a great factor for them/ anyways last nites game was great didnt anyone see vinces 360 dunk it didnt count cause there was a foul b4 it and vince just went in and did it it was still nice cause he did it off straight verticil
thanks dragonkid, and nice recap on the game and lookout on that move by krstic, henacy. Unfortunately, the Nets didn't seem to be able to gain too much ground on that last win against Indiana. Duncan getting injured and Pistons going in a losing funk came at the worst time for the Nets, as Philly beat San Antonio and Indiana beat Detroit. Important thing is that the Nets didn't fall behind, and is catching up on Orlando who has lost key player Hedo. One game, and one team at a time is what the Nets need (and seem) to focus on. First up, passing Orlando, and then the Nets can really start thining about breaking into the playoff seeds.
