Exclusive Playoffs or Lottery?

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  1. TBpup

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    A couple more losses and we won't have to give up anything for the #3 pick.
     
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    As long as they aren't purposeful! lol
    But yeah, see. I think our pick will be high enough so to figure out how to trade up to #3 should be somewhat feasible. Then we can use Crabbe and a filler or two to go get Noel and then CJ and a filler or two to go get DMC.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I read it and I said it isn't enough. A) The Kings are on track for the playoffs. Why would they trade him at the deadline this year? B) Cousins is the superior talent to CJ. "Filler" isn't going to be much of a lure. C) Most GMs are still loathe to violate the "Don't trade big for small" maxim.

    Assuming you could even get DMC above, Why would Philly give us both #3 and Noel for that? I guess it might depend on whether we can get a top 7 pick in the draft, but outside of that, there's little incentive for them to add two first round picks to an already insanely young roster AND take on a bunch of contract ballast and Turner who they already dumped.
     
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    Because they could then take a couple of those high picks and package for a vet star in a position of their need.
    It will take more than one other team and wont be easy, but I think its feasible.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    A top 3 pick is more likely to get a veteran star than a late first rounder and a 7-11 ish pick. Why bother with us if some other team has the player they want?
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    @Orion Bailey I get what you're trying to do with your trade proposal. You're like a prisoner with a toothpick, a roll of packing tape, and a spoon and you're desperately trying to figure out some kind of MacGuyver-esque escape plan, when little do you know, you've actually been sent to Alcatraz and you haven't yet learned that you're also going to need a boat.

    Tell me if I'm wrong, but it seems like you need to believe that there's going to be some way to salvage the situation this team is in and turn a majority of this under-performing roster into multiple near-miraculous trades that steer the season into a kick-finish, that ultimately gets us to the Western Conference finals. How close am I?
     
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    There's no way we get the number 3 pick unless we trade CJ.
     
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    Tossed you a like purely for the Alcatraz line. Good work, keep it up.
     
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    Lillard for Cousins, McCollum for the #3 pick. Start a new life. This society was a grand experiment but it has run its course.

    And finally, I'll note that Michael Jordan was a #3 pick. Think about it.
     
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    Just like a lottery pick should be an inadequate consolation for not making the playoffs, not a goal toward which to strive.
     
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    Ugh.
     
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    Any trade that triggers the first luxury tax hit had better get us to the #4 seed this season.

    Someone said we had the 2nd highest payroll in the league, did I misread? We're still under the tax threshold, no?
     
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    Lol - MacGuyver.
    Perhaps he's the assistant coach the Blazers need to hire; see if he can't fix up this roster with the lack of materials (talent) to work with. . .
    A Connaughton, a Myle and, of course, a paperclip!
     
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    You are wrong.

    If our pick ends up to be a #7, you dont think we can trade our #7 and Cleveland's 1st and a player or two of need for #3?

    Michael was ONLY a #3 because we needed a center cause we had Glyde.

    McGuyver was the shit. and so am I!!!!
     
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    I get your premise, but Want to toss a few things out there.
    I know you said more likely, but its also fairly likely that pick could be a bust.

    Remember these guys?

    http://www.nbcsports.com/top-nba-draft-busts-all-time
     
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    Depends on just how deep the "Can't miss" type prospects are in this draft and what Philadelphia's goals are. If it seems like there are only going to be 3 sure-fire studs at the top, then the gulf between 7th and 3rd can become very, very large; large enough that tossing in a likely 30th-29th pick and some mediocre player isn't going to get much traction at all. If this turns out to be more of a "No difference between 2 and 8" kind of draft then maybe you can make a trade, but that still doesn't account for Philadelphia's desires for their roster. If Philly really just wants to add a veteran star (say like Paul George or whoever), then they aren't going to be interested in breaking up a quarter for 2 dimes and a nickel with us; they're going to politely say, "No thanks," hang up the phone and try to make a deal with the team that has the player(s) that they covet.

    Think about it like this. If talent acquisition is kind of like a roulette wheel at Vegas then a high lottery pick is kind of a like a free spin of the wheel. If the house tells you, "You can have three free spins to land on black or you can have one free spin." Which would you choose?

    Teams pay their GMs and scouts a lot of money to do their homework to make calculated gambles. They all understand the rules of the game know that their careers can be made or lost on a few bad bets. If you're a fan of a team you just hope that your guys have a nose for talent or know how to pick out the duds.
     
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