Discussion in 'Blazers OT Forum' started by calvin natt, Apr 5, 2022.
This is really great. An awesome outlook for one's own sanity.
Here's my concern. When we ignored the asses and took the high road for a few decades we were given Trump and MAGA. Which has eroded the rights of women and minorities an unimaginable amount.
And I believe we lucked out to have only given up that much...
We have to do something different.
A waitress in a South Dakota Denny's refused to serve to Black long haul truck drivers. Insisted they leave the restaurant for crime of trying to eat breakfast while Black.
The waitress was fired. Will she say it is her sincerely held religious beliefs that she should not be forced to serve Black people?
It's a good analogy.
The issue is 95% of the asses believe they are the tiger in this story.
This is it. Right here. MAGA types read this thinking they are the tiger AND the lion of this story. The cognitive dissonance is astounding.
Good points. So... We just keep doing it?
No idea. This is the problem with fascism running rampant in a democratic society. We don't have all of the answers at this point. As things are going, I think the natural progression is for MAGA to eventually become an insurgent style group of terrorists, and that is if they don't somehow seize power.
Let me know when your dystopian novel is finished, I’d love to read it.
What if the mob had found congress on Jan 6th?
The mob was literally right outside the door congress members were hiding behind, when a police officer literally used himself as bait and lured them away from the door.
Some congress members would have almost certainly been killed.
That's pretty dystopian, IMO.
“What if a bunch of stuff that didn’t happen did happen”
The De-Civilization of America
America is a "dystopian paradise" right now, as it is.
They were literally pounding on the outside of the door hunting for congress with makeshift weapons and zip ties for taking hostages...
The mob was literally a few feet and one incredibly brave police officer away from finding congress...
Don't you think that's an unacceptable risk?
How do know that everyone involved on Jan 6th, from protesters, to cops, to senators, even Trump and Pence, weren't really Antifa?
And I'm not just looking back at the past, I'm using it as a frame of reference for the future. How do you think MAGA world will react if/when Trump and his cronies are found guilty and sentenced, or if/when Trump is disqualified from ballots, or if/when he cries about another electoral loss? I see their past actions and can extrapolate that we will see violence, massive legislative obstruction, etc. I don't see a way MAGA, who are completely brainwashed at this point, does not become an Al Qaeda-style insurgent group.
Presidential centers from Hoover to Bush and Obama unite to warn of fragile state of US democracy
The police literally escorted people inside. Some were unruly and broke things, some took selfies and some just meandered around. There wasn’t a planned insurrection with a stated goal everyone was on board with. No Donald Trump didn’t tell anyone to riot or enter the capitol. It was a shit show and when the doors were opened a handful of opportunists went inside to make some sort of a point by occupying the building temporarily. Most if not all got bored and left on their own accord. The only person who died violently was a Trump supporter who was shot through a door. The entire “insurrection” narrative is exaggerated.
If attempted murder and attempted kidnapping are your big claims then why isn’t anyone being charged with those specific crimes? I find it really interesting all these grandiose claims of incitement, insurrection etc. people use to justify Jan 6 prosecutions or Trump indictments don’t reflect the actual charges being handed out. Most of the charges are obscure and outdated and are being interpreted extremely loosely.
Wow, just fucking wow...some people can talk themselves into anything...especially when they refuse to answer a simple yes or no question. What happened on Jan. 6th was by definition, an "insurrection"...and was "unacceptable".
Spin it however you like to somehow attempt to claim otherwise, but what happened on Jan 6th was flat out wrong and unacceptable...and cannot happen ever again.
Trump literally told them to walk to the capital. And told them they had to fight like hell.
Millions of people see what’s going right now as an egregious weaponization of the justice system, and a blatant attempt at the very type of election interference they are claiming to be prosecuting. I think there’s a strong case for those viewpoints when you consider how dubious and obscure the laws behind the indictments are.
What are people going to do when, on top of inflation, taxation without representation and rampant corruption among other things, they feel their vote has also been taken away? Not sure. Maybe you are right, maybe shit will get crazy.
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