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  1. H.C.

    H.C. Well-Known Member

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    If you're making a historical argument then you would have noticed the downtrend in # of wins needed to make the playoffs.
    Last year the Rockets made it at 41-41. Year before Pelicans made it with 45. Year previous it was the Mavs with 49.
    Trend is downwards. Especially taking the current standings into consideration.
     
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    44-38.

    44 - 38 = 6.
     
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    Its between us and denver for the 8th spot prolly unless sac pulls something out their collective asses. we did not look good against them and I do not want the 8th seed for any reason this season. ill take my lotto pick please and thank you
     
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    wow uh let me walk you through your maths here

    41-41=.500

    41+3=44

    3 games above 500
     
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    Technically it is 6 games over. The calculation is how many wins, or losses, added to the record to be .500.

    Yes, it means to be 48-48 96 games, not 41-41 82 games.
     
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    Yeah, hate to break it to you, given that you were a Bulls fan at the time, but that was a joke. They gave it to an undeserving player because his team had the best record. Same deal with Iverson (whose team didn't even have the best record in the league, just the East, but nobody else on it could score).

    But notice, in both cases: GREAT TEAM RECORD.
     
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    now you gone too far.
     
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    Not

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    That's not how it works. When the team is 26-26 it's at .500.

    If they win, they move a game above .500.

    With your math, being 29-27 means they'd only be a game above .500.

    With your math were only 3 games below .500.

    So if we lose tomorrow, are we 3 and a half games below .500?
     
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    If Beverley was as important to his team as Hill is to his, then yes.

    I wonder if Memphis fans are getting restive about Conley given how well the team has played with Harrison, and given how obscenely much Conley is earning. I bet some are, and I bet some of them are just as mad as you are at the the ones who are questioning the team's "superstar".
     
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    Hill's barely played in a third of their games. He's helped them beat only 2 above-.500 teams...

    Lillard lit up George Hill on opening night
     
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    Keep up with the facts.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Yep, although I'm a big advocate for trading Crabbe for a defensive big (Nerlens Noel, please), I also realize that doing so would leave us with just one above average 3-point shooter in our rotation. And, that doesn't seem like a great plan for a team whose offense is highly dependent on the 3-point shot (which is why I'd be in favor of getting Kyle Korver as a short term rental, if we don't have to give up much to get him - he only makes $5.2 million and is an expiring contract).

    Sure, Dame's .353 3FG% is barely below the league average of .356, but since his hot start, he's REALLY cooled off. Since November 4, he's just 64-189 from 3-point range. That's a 3FG% of .339. Way too low for someone who shoots that many 3s.

    I also find it disturbing that for an offense that's highly 3FG dependent and a defense that is supposed to willingly give up long 2-pointers to focus on limiting 3-point opportunities, we actually shoot a significantly lower 3FG% (.360) than our opponents (.380). For a defense that is supposed to limit our opponents 3FG shooting, I find it disturbing that we have the 28th ranked OPP 3FG% in the league.

    The good news is that over the last 4 games, we've held our opponents to just .324 3FG%. The sample size is small, but the trend is encouraging. The other thing that's encouraging is that two of those four opponents are the #1 (SAS) and #2 (TOR) 3-point shooting teams in the league. Tomorrow night against GSW will be another test of the effectiveness of our new defensive schemes.

    BNM
     
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    True. That was when our season still held promise.

    Of course, we only just beat Utah and they were without Favors and Hayward, so we should've known that win wasn't as good as it looked.
     
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    HATER!!!
     
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    Iverson was an incredibly inefficient scorer. Love the guy, though.
     
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    True, but the point is Hill hasn't really helped them at all. They're good enough to best under .500 teams without him, so what if he's played well in helping them beat almost .500 teams?
     
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    Nevermind the fact that ISO Joe had a turn-back-the-clock kind of night.
    Which I doubt happens if even one of those two plays that night. Especially considering how he's played for the other 34 games he's played this season.


    You went too far.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    I find it amusing I get accused of being both a hater and a homer. Yes, I love and support my team, but I try not to let that get in my way of being (at least somewhat) objective.

    BNM
     
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    Given how he's played recently, so did Lillard.
     

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