Point guard comparison

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  1. H.C.

    H.C. Well-Known Member

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    Nice opinion, with how far you've gone with stats I find it interesting you give that now.
    When is the last time Lillard averaged 8 points a game?
     
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  2. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

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    Jeez, it was a joke. I'm sure Damian's going to bounce back. He had a great second half last year. He'll lead us to a massive win streak and playoffs! Then I'll happily eat crow. Secretly that's what all us "haters" are doing - it's classic reverse psychology.
     
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    Oh I understood it was a joke.
    But I take it you didn't like either of my responses.
    It's okay most people don't like people using logic against them.
     
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  4. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

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    What logic was that? I must've missed it.
     
  5. Denny Crane

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    I wouldn't want Conley over Dame.

    I wouldn't want anything to do with Harden.

    At this point, Dame has a much brighter future than Chris Paul.

    I take him over Lowry, Thomas, and Irving.

    That leaves Westbrook, Giannis, and Curry that maybe are better.
     
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    Cippy91 Habitual Line Stepper

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    I wouldn't take anybody over Dame right now and that's mostly because of the loyalty he has shown to the organization. Who was the last player to really show this much loyalty and be a great speaker for the organization and team? Plus he is only gonna get better as he has shown every year. Only complaints I have on Dame is defense and shot selection at times. That's really it.
     
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    It's literally like 5 posters at the most. 3 of which have more than one account. Lol.
     
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    Haha! Get em Bones!
     
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    That's why Lillard

    :evilfire:__________:onfire:

    Every time they play.
     
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    When the 'roid rage subsides, re-read what I wrote. I said he may be closer to league average PG than he is to the top of the heap. That was in response to a list that could rank him outside the top-10 PGs, depending on individual preference. That puts him closer to #15 than #1, which is nearing league average territory. It's not rocket science, dude.
     
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    'Roid rage? HAH!

    So you're suggesting that he might not be top 10. That's ridiculous on many levels. I have the same exact response for this post. Youre trying to clarify your absurdity in a way to make yourself sound less absurd but it's still some crap.
     
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    I agree with everything you said. But I still agree that it's arguable whether Dame ranks in the 6ish region or 10ish region of the Top 10. I'm sure TOR fans would rather take Lowry, and CLE fans Irving. I hate Harden, but he's certainly better than Dame. And just because Dame has a brighter future than Paul doesn't mean he's better - and that begs the question, how many in-coming PGs are going to be as good or better than Dame when Dame is finally better than Paul?
     
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    I'm not even sure Paul is better than Dame right now.

    He's better on defense and getting assists.
     
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    He's also a more efficient scorer and a better rebounder.
     
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    He's scoring 10PPG less. Efficient or not.
     
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    His usage rate is also significantly lower. He doesn't have to score as much because he's better at setting up his teammates. And overall, he has a greater net impact on his team's performance.

    It requires a very narrow view to claim that Dame is better simply because he scores more. Paul does virtually everything else better.
     
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    I'd rather have a PG that creates easy scoring opportunities for his teammates, than a PG that scores 30ppg.
    Also: "Efficient or not"? Efficiency is an extremely important aspect of the game. It's why Aldridge sucked here. Half the league could average 20ppg+, but few of them can do it efficiently.
     
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    They're both exactly the same. Out injured.
     
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    We need Dame to score, given the roster we have.
     
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    If he* were better at creating scoring opportunities for others he could score less himself.

    *I actually think our system is what needs to be improved the most. But Dame is rather pedestrian when it comes to the primary role of a traditional PG.
     

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