OT Police Shooting in ATL

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  1. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I'm sensing a pattern here...

     
  2. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Drunk drivers are always arrested.
    Police are taught to never shoot someone in the back unless it was to save the life of someone under immediate threat. Unless the officer tripped and fell to the ground accidentally setting off the gun shooting Mr. Brooks in the back thereby killing him, I see this as some level of murder. Firing the officer seems like a good first step in response.
     
  3. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    I see no way that shooting someone in the back is an option when the suspect is running away.
     
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  4. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    If they're wielding a gun and chasing someone, if they're swinging a knife around. Those are about the only two ways you could justify it. But in this case, there was no way that this was the best option, let alone an option.
     
  5. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    If they were turning to face someone with the gun or were close enough to stab someone and were threatening to do so then I could agree.
     
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    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

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    Should be like old Mayberry days....they wake up the drunk, give him crap on how they can hurt someone then takes them home, or let them walk to the jail house and lock himself up.
     
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  7. e_blazer

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    “Drunk drivers are always arrested.”

    Maybe that’s something that could change. In this age of camera phones and mobile internet access, why does someone who’s only moderately drunk have to be handcuffed and hauled off to jail? If there isn’t a record that shows up with a license search, take the person‘a photo and other information and do a mobile booking, impound the car and call for a cab to take them home.
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Totally agree.....BUT you can't fight with the cops! Not saying what they did was right, just saying that if you fight with the cops, this will happen. People out there have to realize this by now. It's just horrible.
     
  9. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    I completely agree, don't fight with the cops.

    But there are laws on books for fighting with the cops.

    If the police and/or the public are not in danger, the penalty for fighting with the cops should not be death.
     
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    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I understand your bigger point, but what about the times when people aren't fighting cops and get killed?

    or when a white person is basically doing this X 10, rams their car into the police car, and runs off and doesn't get shot?
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    I'm not talking about that at all. All that stuff is horrible. I'm talking about this case where this guy starts resisting to a legitimate arrest. Guy blew hot on a DUI and knew it and tried to get away and started fighting with the cops......in todays day and age after everything we have seen, you just can't do that. It will not end up good.
     
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    I think that the guy stealing the cop’s taser and then pointing it at him as he was running away is what differentiates this incident from some of the others. Pointing a weapon, any weapon or facsimile thereof, at a cop is a good way to end up dead. The cop has to decide in an instant if his life is in danger and react accordingly. First question, is it the taser or did the guy maybe have a gun on him? Can you be certain before the guy fires? Second question, if it is the taser, if he shoots it at you and incapacitates you, what’s to prevent the guy or someone else from taking your gun and using it on you? Too many decisions in too short of a time span where a negative outcome could result in the officer’s death equals a high probability of the officer choosing to neutralize the threat.

    All of that said, it was some pretty crappy police work that resulted in the cops losing control of the situation.
     
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    Good points, things happen fast. But you'd think cops was have it drilled into them to not shoot someone in the back. Seems if they were chasing someone and they felt they need to stop the guy hit him in leg or ass.
     
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    Cops are pretty much trained to shoot for the “center of mass”. Here’s a pretty good discussion of police policy on use of force:

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vo...-allowed-to-force-shoot-taser-training-policy
     
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    Cops deal with people who are drunk and belligerent every day. They should know non-lethal ways to cope.
     
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    It's not as easy as you think.
     
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    This!...cops are not human, and some are flawed and some more than others.

    And the problem I have with some of the demonstrations and outcries and yadda yadda yadda, is the narrative from some that this is a good time to retaliate to cops...it's a bad move.

    I know I'll catch some flack for saying this but here's a tip, don't try to fight a cop.
     
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    But they are trained for it and don't usually shoot.
     
  19. yankeesince59

    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

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    Yes, not all cops shoot.

    And training does not always prepare people for real life situations whether you're a cop or not.

    You can go to school that will teach how to back up a semi in a deserted parking lot but it does not prepare you how to drive on an interstate. You can buy a book on how to make mixed drinks but it does not prepare you for actually being a bartender in a high volume bar. Someone may change the oil in their wife's car but that doesn't make them a mechanic.

    For the umpteenth time, pay cops/teachers/military for what their worth and you will attract a MUCH better product, and the results will likely improve exponentially.
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Who makes the decision what they're worth...and, specifically, how much?
     

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