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  1. PapaG

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    D'oh. Fact-checking again, and Maris is wrong. The claims in his videos are lies, as well.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...acare-cuts-medicare-by-716-billion-heres-how/

    As to how the Affordable Care Act actually gets to $716 billion in Medicare savings, that’s a bit more complicated. John McDonough did the best job explaining it in his 2011 book, “Inside National Health Reform.” There, he looked at all the various Medicare cuts Democrats made to pay for the Affordable Care Act.
    The majority of the cuts, as you can see in this chart below, come from reductions in how much Medicare reimburses hospitals and private health insurance companies.

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    That they plan to stop overpaying the medical profession disproves Republican lies, not anything that I posted.
     
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    Just another example of how ronnie raygun has bankrupted our country.
     
  12. BrianFromWA

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    Not that I agree or disagree, but it looks like a big spike occurred in 1988-1992, and another in 1994-2000. Blame Reagan? Looks like Bush42 and Clinton to my eyes.
     
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    all the "war" on drugs has done is clog up our courts and prisons, while not actually doing a fucking thing concerning addiction, costing the us billions FOR NOTHING

    its a scam for privatized prisons and unicor so they can keep filling wall mart with shit that says "made in the usa"

    we have more people in prison in this country right now than there was at any time in the gulags of stalins russia, basically the most intensive, all encompassing, corrupt and nonsensical prison state in the history of the world
     
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    I call BS. To be accurate, there are 2.3M prisoners in the US in 2010. Meanwhile, 14M Russians were sent to the gulag between 1941 and 1949, where half of them died.. (Pohl, Otto, Ethnic Cleansing in the USSR, 1937–1949,) In addition, he also murdered about 700k people in the 1937 purge alone.

    Bring up the cost of the War on Drugs--that's fine. But don't try to make stuff up to further the story.
     
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    im sorry, were you going to refute my point with facts? did you actually have a link of them having more than 2.3 million at one time?

    from the wikipedia article you quickly scanned and copied from to try and sound like you knew what you were talking about

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    yeah not so much

    so basically, bring up the cost of the war on drugs--that's fine. but don't try to make stuff up to further YOUR narrative.
     
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    and really, trying to squash my point with a false technicality is weak as shit, even if it were true

    "actually, we are about the same as the gulags, not more!"

    give me a fucking break
     
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    yeah that war on drugs is a real hoot, a steadily climbing imprisoned nation
     
  18. BrianFromWA

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    Moral of the story: don't want to go to prison? Stop using illegal drugs. :dunno:

    Two points: One, I just pulled one particular fact b/c you compared them to the fucking gulag. Two, if our prisons were less like cable-tv-run motels and more like gulags, we wouldn't have 2.3M motherfuckers in them.

    Even the Netherlands realized that having a free marijuana policy blew up in their face when a "criminal element" came in, and so they started cracking down on who could buy drugs, enforcing registration laws and limiting demand. How on earth can there be a criminal element if drugs were legal??!?
     
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    haha

    yeah "dont do drugs! just say no!" :lol:

    the point is, that is a stupid fucking idea, and it does nothing

    and i wouldnt expect you to see injustice in a system such as:

    build a prison
    charge money from the state to fill it
    spend millions lobbying for stricter drug laws
    profit
    more people in jail, more money they make

    but i thought id give it a shot
     
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    and are you advocating we take our national policy cues from the netherlands? how very bohemian of you! :lol:
     

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