Pope Francis says atheists can go to heaven

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  1. Denny Crane

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    Conscience is the voice in your head that tells you what actions are right or wrong. Non believers can have a sense of right and wrong that has nothing to do with some "creator." There was morality long before Christ, and certainly before the oldest religion.
     
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    That's what my dog seems to think when I change channels with the remote.
     
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    Ha! Hard to swallow heh. So we are born with this right and wrong? Weird idea. We might as well give up all this teaching since the kid either has it or not. Might be a cannibal at heart or a Saint, luck of the draw. No Sir! This is bull shit, it is not the luck of the draw, kid learn if taught, or they are animals if not.
     
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    We are born with some things, like fear of heights.

    If you throw a rock at a bigger kid than you, you get a beating. That will teach you some morality. No creator necessary.
     
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    Heh? Men do the teaching, about morality and plethora of other things. Why did you mention the creator?

    That would be a lesson alright, but hardly morality.
     
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    The morality is do unto others, learned by throwing a rock, or figuring out why you shouldn't. It's common sense, not so much anything to do with religious teachings.
     
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    + Ah This pope is a smart one. He was a good Cardinals choice rather than the prior Nazi soldier pope. The Catholic church needs a super star and a total transparency of its finances and "bad priest" accounting for me to look twice. I was once Catholic but its structure is stiff and its mass is un imaginative. I would rather participate is a black baptist funeral (have done that and its freakin good).

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    But not everyone's inner voice guides them to the same morality. You say "robbery is bad", but some believe that greed is worse, and robbery of a greedy hoarder is right and moral. You say "murder is bad", but is it necessarily immoral to take one life of it saves ten? When moral relativism is the code of the day, there subsequently is no objective right or wrong.

    As for this pope's decree, anyone who has read the book of Judges knows that the writer thereof repeatedly points to the Israelites "doing what was right in their own eyes" as a negative. But I guess this kind of thing is to be expected when a person is elevated to the status of the world's moral authority. It's only a matter of time before that person elevates himself above the God he claims to serve.
     
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    It should be noted that the Pope didn't say that atheists can't go to hell.

    Given some of the posts by some of the heathens around here, I'd say that's a more likely outcome. ;)
     
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    Sounds like hell to me.
     
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    Oh that's just wonderful! Speaking of another group of people the Catholic Church might want to get around too....



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    My long standing belief: Believing in god is foolish, there is no evidence.

    My amended belief: Believing in god is foolish, but who gives a shit, we are all fools anyway. Until your belief hinders science, learning or progress at least.
     
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