I read nothing stating these are foreclosed homes. Are you suggesting private home owners just hand over these unsold homes to the homeless? Are you suggesting the government buy them out?
I've made no such suggestion. I'm suggesting we remove the incentive to allow homes to remain vacant (a steep tax on unoccupied homes would work) and I'm suggesting that government compensate homeowners fairly for the use as housing, including any repairs which result from said use.
I wouldn't mind finding a vacant house in the Portland metro area and get to move in there for free (depending on the area of course). I get that chances are people looking to buy a home are better off than homeless people, but it seems weird to fix a stubbed toe when you have an ax wound.
Years ago I had a cousin who got himself in trouble at a young age early teens and seemed to have a chip on his shoulder and thought he could beat any system. Eventually did some jail time and when he turned 18 joined the job core and it seem to really help him mature and understand opportunities are there for him to build on. He left there and went to work in a mill and made decent money of which seemed to be the thing that motivated him as he wanted to acquire a vehicle and afford his own place. I believe if you couple opportunities for shelter/food & work you will/can, teach a man to fish and excel, and build a life, but there are always those that don't want to0, or aren't capable because of medical/mental issues. They need to be in specialty hospitals and treated. The ones that dont want to be helped, but rather, just bum off others and break laws need to realize, that they will be paying a penalty. There used to be vacrancy laws and I think there still should be... After seeing what it cost per year to address homeless with not much improvement to me that starts politically with leaders, and there ability to only spend money, implement efforts that don't work, and justify their existence.
wow. So you wants tax payers to supplement the repairs required for when the homeless damage the homes gifted to them in the first place? sigh… Thoughts like that move me to my more conservative right. No way I am wanting/willing to pay for that.
Tax payers would be saving money by doing so. Just like taxpayers in Finland are. You apparently want tax payers to pay more for our current situation. Which is what the conservative right wants. This supports the theory that the conservative right is ignorant and short sighted with regards to social policy.
If you want to give up all of your income and live that way, so be it. That would likely be a drastic reduction in your quality of life. I certainly wouldn't choose it for myself. If you kept your income you would be required to pay 1/3 for rent. But the reality is that these homes would be rented out or sold (as keeping them vacant would be incredibly expensive), relieving pressure on apartments.
We've only recently approved enough funding to address homelessness in Oregon. Will leaders use that funding to enact proven policies in an effective way? I have my doubts, and think that we need to make sure we're putting leaders in place who will enact data based policy.
lol. No this supports the theory that some people value principles over enabling continual poor decision making. You can try to insult it all you want. Wont change the fact that you are Absolutely trying to take individuals’ rights away from the majority to help a minority who cant make better choices and work harder. You talk of people making poor choices when desperate. There is no desperate in this country. Our worst neighborhoods are dream communities for many parts of the third world. This country was founded on hard work to survive and we have gone too soft. Period. This country provides soooo many opportunities for those who actually put forth effort to improve themselves its ridiculous to claim we have sooo many in such a desperate level of poverty, that their poor decisions should be excused and we should fund then without change in thier behavior. There are homeless people who do not break laws. They can distinguish right from wrong. I refuse to buy into any of your insulting propaganda. You continue to ignore the points made about The homeless specifically in Portland have a larger base of anarchistic desires. You bring up models from other places that do not address the points made several times about specific of the issues in this city. How do you suggest we deal with the large percentage of healthy homeless youth that want to see the system torn down, live in tents, steal to get high and wait for the next protest to come out and try to instigate and antagonize to push their wants on everyone else? What is your specific answer in dealing with this sect that runs around in Portland? Straight forward answer.
This is wrong. All of it. This is false. All available evidence suggests this is wrong. Okay. I never claimed otherwise. You mean talking about places which have actually solved this problem and saved money in doing so? Yes, I understand you don't like that. I've seen no evidence to support this theory, and no evidence which would indicate to what degree this is correct. I have yet to see any evidence that Portland's homeless population is unique in a way that would be resistant to the policies I've suggested. I've already answered the question of what to do with the people you're referring to. Under my proposal people who refuse to take homes offered or choose to commit violence, property damage, or theft will be arrested. This will not appeal to their desire for freedom and they will change their ways, leave the area, or spend a lot of time in the system. No matter what they choose they would not be camping in our public spaces in near the numbers they currently are, and we'd be spending less than we are now.
Thats some funny satire. When you show me neighborhoods in America like this: https://www.worldatlas.com/amp/articles/where-are-the-poorest-places-in-the-world.html There is plenty of evidence you are apparently unaware of. i could post picture after picture and article aFter article and you will still say all evidence points to something else becuase you dismiss valid rebuttals as no opinion or whatever… you are good entertainment though. I give ya that! Problemsolver? Not so much when you dismiss anything relevant that doesnt fit in your package of crap you sell on here at times. Fyi the crap isnt your proposals. Its the dismissal of any counter, relevant or not. You dont want to hear about aNy other viewpoint. However truthful it is. You dont want to dissect the fact that Portland has a larger population of healthy youth that want nothing but anarchy. But you seem to insist if we give them housing it will change them. You say toss them in jail. But these are the very people i have said throw in jail from the fetvgo and your rebuttal is prove they do the crimes. But also dont want police on the ground. Your wants lead little room to gather good evidence to convict. So you support agendas that make it hard to catch a criminal and then want to house them when ww cant prove the. Rimes they do. You want to blanket paint the problem with a one world type solution. One answer fits all. It works for Norway and Camden so it should work here. Camden nj. 71000 people portland oregon 500,000 people or more. read this article. It explains how camden got so bad due to defunding the police. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1231677 but i doubt you will have an opinion on it because, it doesn't fit your proposals. Read these articles about anarchists in portland: https://www.portlandoregon.gov/police/news/read.cfm?id=352015 How many anarchists have a facebook site for thier city? https://m.facebook.com/pdxaga/ you refuse to acknowledge our situation is different than other countries and even other cities. Just because you say something is false, doesn't make it so just because you refuse to a acknowledge any valid rebuttal, with different opinions supports by other facts. That's fox news level head in sand. “But they arent valid” “says you..” satire my friend. Satire. Good luck with your proposals.
Lol. You can't find any evidence that any of my proposals have any of the drawbacks you've been harping on so you bring up cases I've never mentioned using policies I've never advocated for. Please show me where I've suggested any of India, Ethiopia, Bangladesh, the Democratic Republic of Congo, or Nigeria as examples we should replicate here. You can't, because I haven't. I've given you too much attention. From now on I'll just laugh at your pathetic attempts to make the world fit your twisted perspective.
Lol. I didn't think you could answer anything with honest relevance. You responded to quickly to click links and read before responding so that tells me right there you haven't a clue what i actually even posted you just quoted. Did you check out the links? yes or no? Bet you cant answer this because you wont lie and say yes and wont tell the truth and say no. Thats some more next level fox news behavior. I knew you couldnt be on the up and up and then the rebuttals got tough you would dismiss other facts and remain on your singular mindset. So the next time i post something to someone else you wont but in with your self grandizing posts? Nobody said this. Nobody said that? Please???? You dont want a discussion you want robots to fall in line with your proposals. Nothing more. Good luck with that. Now id just ignore my posts unless you actually have feedback on the links, etc. But we know the only feedback is dismissing any and all evidence that is contrary to yuor proposals as false.
This is false. Because I say so. Sew how this works? Lol. Read the links and get back to me or be laughed off as comedic satire. Period.
Nah, I'll keep calling you out for posting ignorant BS. I scanned your links giving them all the attention they are worth. You posted examples and pictures of places nobody has suggested Portland try to copy in an attempt to move the attention away from how wrong you are. Same old BS you've always done. I'll keep calling it out for the garbage it is. But I won't just let you spam your garbage unchallenged.
I know. The links and info that doesn't match your proposal isn't worth your time. Makes you tucker2.0. You go tucker2.0. Dismiss anything that doesn't fit. Don't even look into articles that have other info provided to you. “read my links! I have answers to this problem!!! I wont read your links though. But read mine!!!!” Lmao. This is better than sitcom.
