OT Portland and surrounding area Homeless Situation

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  1. Everything Beagle

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    Someone talking calmly about how they support a dehumanizing policy is not inherently respectful, and is not more worthy of respect because it's calm.
     
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    who is talking about supporting a dehumanizing policy and respecting it?

    Dont play the passive aggressive game others do here. Or, as you put it.,. Get out of my thread!!!
    Lol.
     
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    Gladly!
     
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    I think most homeless people don't want to tear it all down. Some may be spiteful and hold that sentiment. Most just want to live.

    I'm not jumping on board with anybody. I'm just sharing my own thoughts.

    I agree with some of what he said and some of what you said. I disagree with some of what he said, and some of what you said.

    That's the good thing about this country is we can all have our thoughts and express them.

    The two of you can't seem to have a conversation, so I'd just not try to have it. Sometimes you just have to agree to disagree.
     
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    Just want to be clear here. If you disagree with some of what he said, per him, and another, that makes you short sighted, ignorant and supporting policies that dehumanize humans.
    This is a fact. I just read it.
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    Which policy are you referring too?
     
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    The ones who make the policies aren't ignorant. The majority of those who vote for them are, IMO.
     
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    I agree, but I'm not the one saying i will respond to everything and blah blah blah like someone else is. Ive actively told him i don't want to discuss politics with him. But he keeps coming back with passive aggressive behavior. Possibly trying to stir up drama?
    Anyhow haters gonna hate.
    Im all for discussing opposing opinions to try to better the situation about homeless. I'm not for hearing someone's proposal and being belittled because i might not agree with all of it.
    Just ridiculous to think anyone would be cool with that.
     
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    Whats worse. The guy who questions things to dissect and clarify, or those who think they are always right and cant handle being questioned without resorting to belittling, name calling and passive aggressive behavior?
     
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    Hah

    No, it means I'm open minded.

    I can be ok with the things he says that I don't agree with. I'm not going to take it personally.

    I agree with some of the things you have shared and disagree with others.

    Human problems need human solutions.
     
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    but not me. If i disagree or question, im short sighted, ignorant and support dehumanizing policies now apparently. :dunno:
     
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    I'm sorry I've upset you. I'll try to be more kind in the future.
     
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    No one is always right. Some people feel very righteous about their thoughts and beliefs. Some have valid reason to feel that way, some do not.

    Some stick to logic and leave emotion out of it. Some use emotion. I know I do sometimes. I can get loud if I'm passionate about something.
     
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    tHanks!
     
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    100% agree

    You and i dont always agree on everything but have never tossed out passive aggressive or insulting comments at each other. Like, im sorry ive upset you…

    ill always have respect for your opinions whether i agree or not because if/ when i disagree you don't belittle me for it.

    And i appreciate you helping to get this convo back on track too. :)
     
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    Then don't respond to it.

    Phats is a good dude. Its hard for me to have conversations with him sometimes. He has his ideas, and he sticks with them no matter what. I can appreciate that. I just say what I need to say, I try to listen, and agree to disagree. Like gun control, we see things very differently but, agree on some things. It's a thorn discuss it. I'll admit, I bring a certain emotion into that one, that passionate part of me.

    If a conversation hits a wall, if it becomes an argument....well I'll argue a bit lol, but I know when I need to just let it go, or come back to it, because it will come up again.
     
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    Nobody is perfect.

    I think he was trying to come back to the conversation, but you were upset. I didn't see the name-calling, Ill have to look back. But, you were offended still, so when he tried to ask you a question to further the conversation you decided not to answer it but get passive aggressive back.
     
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    I agree, but im not the one chasing the other around admittedly trying to debunk any post i disagree with.
     
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    ohh i fully admit one of my faults is to fight fire with fire, even if i know i should be using water.
    But one can only take so much of the same pattern before the responses drop to the same level.
    And im not the one who entered this thread telling others in it if they disagree with my proposals they are short sighted and ignorant.
    I never said phats is a bad guy. I think he is a good guy. Means well. Anyone who is actively trying to solve a problem, i have respect for. but i expect that respect to be mutual in such a conversation.

    Not once did i belittle him or anyone else until i was simply reciprocating that behavior back to the innitiators.

    for now, ive had my fill of it, so to come back with a question without addressing previous belittling, is just more of the same to me. At least give it, me a little time to get over and move on from the insults. I almost always do. Just not in the heat of the moment.

    Im just tired of watching some people point fingers at others without actually looking in the mirror and acknowledging their own behavior may not be productive. Belittling someone is not productive, doesn't change minds and generally takes a conversation down the tubes.

    but instead of even attempting to acknowledge that, i get passive aggression. “Im sorry you feel that way”crap.
    That shit pushes the buttons and passive aggressive people know this. Its drama bait.
     
    SharpeScooterShooter, May 3, 2023
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    Understood.
     
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