Politics Portland Antifa attacks, sends journalist to the hospital

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  1. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    You could surmise that, but it would be incorrect to do so.

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    So because there is a higher CHANCE of violence happening at certain events vs others, the higher probability items should be avoided?

    So then please define a breakdown of percentages of what would be considered responsible vs irresponsible. And once you have done that, please provide an explanation as to why X percent is acceptable and Y percent is irresponsible?

    So I have a higher percentage of dieing in a car accident vs flying. Should I then walk everywhere until I can afford my own private jet?


    Your rationality on this is not rational man.

    Violence is violence. Regardless of whether GNO took a risk or not. Living life is taking risks. Sounds like you want everyone to live in a bubble.
     
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    Your analogies are the same/or on a parallel line, so until you do a better job of explaining what you are even trying to debate regarding violence not being acceptable to non aggressors, this is who you read.

    YOU are the one who claimed GNO hold some responsibility.

    He does. For showing up. Not for being assaulted.


    I mean really. Antifa... Claims to be sticking up for the minority. Yet they assault a minority rather than peacefully attempt to debate with him ( Antifa actually peaceably debate? that's a joke in its own right) and you say he should hold some responsibility for that.

    Sorry. His agenda is to document the activities of Antifa because he disagrees with him.

    So then any reporter heading out to a site where they disagree with the happenings should not go and do their job? or just GNO, because...............
     
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    All I say if the Nazi White supremacist or Antifa/anarchist come to my neighbor hood and spread their hate and hurt anyone they will be run out of our community Police or now police involvement.
    But Ill tell you right now, Most Oregon Mayors wouldn't stand for what Portland's has stood for. What a Winnie!
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Well, obviously. You don't jump off of high buildings without a chute, do you? Even though there is some chance you'd live (people have), you correctly assess that it's not worth the risk. [Although, if you argue with me long enough, you may reconsider that decision.]

    If that's your personal assessment of the the risk/reward tradeoff, sure.


    Everybody takes risks, including me. Hopefully the reward is worth the risk. I think it was for Ngo, because he saw a significant upside to getting beat up that most of us wouldn't.

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    @barfo @dviss1

    Id be interested in continuing this over a beer or something sometime, but I get to bring a conservative fourth for back up. :)
     
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    I'd bet some of your police force is Nazi.

    #notjoking
     
  8. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Hey, you finally get it. He bears responsibility for HIS actions. Not for anyone else's.

    Oops, I guess you didn't get it after all. Oh well.

    I've pointed out several times that other reporters there did not get beat up. You don't seem to understand why that is.

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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Sure, I imagine that Joey Gibson is available to support your position.

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    Yes, but let common sense tell you what events are going to be dangerously violent. I'm not going to stand on the precipice of a violent volcano whereas I feel somewhat safe looking down from the observation deck of the Empire State Building.
     
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    You gotta be kidding me...

    Here's what is bullshi.... The KKK and NAZIS have a history of doing what????

    Rounding MFs up and KILLING THEM... Literally killing them by the millions...

    From what you've seen they start out peaceful???

    Was the KKK peaceful when they were burning crosses and lynching people??

    See here's what I don't understand. The entire history of the KKK and the Nazis has been violent. NEVER non violent.

    Now, FUCK Antifa. I've never been a part of them and frankly, IMO they're some dumbass white boys who need their goddamn ass whooped. They don't represent the left AT ALL.

    But to act like the ENTIRE history of the KKK and Nazi movement hasn't been violent is just.... man... bro... Really???
     
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    First. Please point out other conservative reporters that where there?

    I dont know who that is.
     
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    I'd be willing to discuss the value of a mechanical pencil over a wooden one if significant beer were involved.
    I'd say going into a biker tavern and yelling in a loud voice "Bikers are pussies" would be dangerous and best avoided. Likewise, attending a Klan gathering and pulling my hood off to reveal I was black would seem a good idea not to do.
     
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    Absolutely, and I'll say it, mother fucking, right. How could anyone not know this?
     
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    You are comparing history to current events.

    I mentioned the history of the south. We are discussing current events. What videos have you seen of White supremist ralleys where htye instigate violence?

    You are4 mixing two things up that are separate.
    Ralleys/protests vs the hateful actions of racist people.


    How do you get I act like the HISTORY of the KKK hasnt been violent when I said this....."Yes the right has a history of this (south east lynchings). but in recent times, the violence initiated that I have seen? has come from the left."

    Im all for debating, but you completely twisted my words man.
     
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    Because that isnt what I said.
     
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    Could very well be and if so I hope they get rooted out and fired.
    The sad reality imo, is this Country has to many white supremacist, bigots, racist, commie pinkos, anarchist brown shirts that want to be the law and order and many other groups.
    I realize as a percentage it may be small but they are all cancer to our youth and society. When any of them get out of line, break the law, hurt people, they must be dealt with and swiftly.
    If its possible you gut the cancer out before it spreads and metastasize's.
    #forreal
     
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    Agreed, but it's what you left out.
     
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    Come to think of it, it had to do with your point about the far Right wanting to discuss rather than fight.
     
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    The Nazis JUST DID Charlottesville.... That was less than a year ago.

    Hate crimes have increased for a 3rd year in a row

    #facts

    Hate crimes are UP 81% on transgenders.

    This ain't Antifa, this is racist white people who for some reason aren't considered terrorists...

    You have a saying that I also have:

    Own your shit.

    Racist white people need to own their shit. They're WST.

    White Supremacist Terrorists.
     
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