Portland has alot to offer! Is this being Marketed and how do we help?

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  1. Orion Bailey

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    I agree. I wish the organization was a bit more candid with their individual marketing of FA's. I think they have gone a better direction as of late with regards to public marketing and trying to branch out on a national level. This Rise with us crap was amateur. Makes us look like small timers. The Gonzaga of the NCAA or something you know? Need to walk like a big city already. not talk about becoming a big city.
     
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    to clarify my last post -- yesterday after turner's signing is a perfect example not on OP
     
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    Honestly, I think it's because the perception of Portland is skewed. Outsiders don't view it the same way we or other players who've played here view it. That's because the perception of Portland isn't quite correct. You've had to live here to appreciate the city and realize what it has to offer. We should be preaching that in every free agent meeting we go into.
     
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    Too much of a blind homer for a real discussion. Carry on
     
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    I absolutely think you are correct and its basically my point. how do we change this? Its very wrong for the most part. How can we get this knowledge out there to the masses?
    Are we merely and purely victims/slaves to the large media market and there simply isnt anything we can do, because unless these major media conglomerates decide they want to start supporting us, there is nothing we can do?
    As much as I hate to say it, but can we partner up with Comcast for a more nationwide type of marketing plan that will spread beyond the region? I'm not talking about for the Blazers, i'm talking about for Portland. Ive seen ads for other cities on our stations here, saying come visit us...

    We need a bigger push for the city. Not the team. The more people across the country that see our city on TV, the more people will understand it's special parts and it will hopefully trickle through the NBA as well.
     
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    Very few players/people want to build anything anymore. They want it easy, to be given to them. Players want to be the final piece, not one of many pieces needed. We won last year but we're not one player away. Lillard isn't on a Lebron level, he's not even considered 1 of a big 3. Not saying he won't be, just that he's not now. We have to accept the fact that there isn't a player that is going to come through the door that we can ride to a championship. We're going to have to fight, kick, claw, scratch, work and struggle to get to a championship. Luckily I truly believe that Lillard and CJ are the men who can lead us, I also believe that Olshey and Stotts can get us there too. With hard work and a little luck we can get to the point where a free agent will want to join us because they think they could be the frosting on our 'ship cake. Until then don't sweat the small stuff.
     
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    Not at all just a cup is half full kinda guy. I don't deny there are issues. I just disagree with your assumption they aren't fixable/ or offset by other things we offer that other cities don't. or we should just sit and accept, like some pessimistic negative people who live in a cesspool of mediocrity. ;)

    You do realize it is possible for people to live a happy life even though their surroundings aren't perfect? You do understand there are people in this world who would rather work towards a solution than sit around and say... were fucked.. whoa is me...
     
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    Most players that come through Portland end up loving it.......as they get older. I think the issue is getting 20 something black guys to like cold rainy weather and not a lot of night life. That's tough.
     
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    Chicago can't get top tier FAs to sign there.

    They did sign Carlos Boozer and over-the-hill Ben Wallace. It was the guys they drafted that made them win: DRose, Noah, Gibson, Butler. Even with the best record in basketball, they couldn't. They couldn't convince Melo to join Rose, Noah, Butler, Gibson, and the rest.
     
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    Yet Lillard and CJ have moved their families here and live here year around.
     
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    Very well said, and I agree. I just thought we were about there already. But your right. Patience. Its not a light switch that is going to change over night. Cultures take time to develop and become a stronghold and have sustainability for the long term.
     
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    Yep. And though LAL made some plays today. They are not the Hollywood they once were and a top teir doesnt even look thier direction now.
     
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    I don't think this is correct. I am not going to go into all the tax jargon on this but... 11% on 70m is a ton of money. Way more than a guy would spend on
    sales tax any where.

    Then someone mention the Gulf vs the Pacific Ocean. That is huge one in my view. This North Pacific is damn near the nastiest ocean on earth.
    The Gulf, the entire Atlantic seaboard, the Gulf of Santa Catalina and Puget Sound are way more docile and inviting.
     
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    Unless he has a hole in the water he pours money into.
     
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    You fix the weather, tax situation, complete lack of diversity and virtually nothing to do for a pro athlete and you'll be set.

    Even with sales tax, I make a shit ton more here than I did in Portland. Plus, I can write off sales tax at the end of the year.

    Now, ask me where I'd rather live, and it's Portland 10 out of 10 times, but ONLY because I lived there. I talk to people here and the perception of Portland is rains, hippies, homeless people, what is there to do?
     
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    Yes, I could help there.

    Ha! or just show them how it's done! Sitting here in the shipyard.....
     
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    You can write off state income tax too.

    Maybe you should leave the tax talk to the big boys.
     
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    Absolutely. There are going to be those guys. You here of high school kids wanting to come to Eugene from LA because they want a quieter environment. But it's definitely the exception to the rule.
     
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    We do have a harsh ocean, but the tax thing. 11% on 70M is 7.7 mill. Say a player buys a $5 mill home and another $5 in decorations and another mill in transportation vehicles. Thats $11 mill. Cali Sales tax is 7.5%. That would be $825,000. Wash I think is 10.2%? which would be 1.02 mill. Okay. Yeah. Not quite adding up to be a complete offset, but it is still close to a Million dollars difference. Not chump change. Plus,
    we are not the only state with an income tax. Ours is higher, but other states have them as well and so combining thier lower rate with thier sales tax might come much closer than these numbers show here. Im having difficulty finding quick income tax rates for other states though.
     
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    Well then there you go. Send a quick note out to all the NBA players letting them know that.
     

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