OT Portland hotel calls cops on black guest in lobby

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  1. dviss1

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    So... More government control?

    Bro... This doesn't make sense. You're asking the government to mandate that you exercise?

    Make sense man...
     
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    Lol.

    You're asking our government to monitor our eating and exercise habits? Besides the fact that that violates our 4th amendment right, but you're not even thinking about how much that's gonna cost....
     
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    I see your point that it says slavery is still legal for punishment of crime. I'd remove that I guess as long as people can still get life in prison for murder and such and be made to work to pay their way.

    Luckily the 8th does rule out cruel and unusual punishment and I'm sure most people would consider slavery cruel and unusual.

    On the other hand shooting up an elementary school seems like it would deserve any punishment known to man.

    Either way it likely isn't getting repealed anytime soon.
     
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    That is not what i said. Please reread. i said id like an insurance run system. Not government.
    I said If its a government op then o want it run the same. This is why im against universal health care.

    Man, again i didnt say that. Go reread my post from beginning to end.
    As far as cost, insurance companies can eat it or write the cost into the policy or offer thier customers the ability to self track and provide verifiable data.
     
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    That's all I'm talking about. Remove the:

    "except as punishment for a crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted"

    This was added for a reason and that reason was to keep black people subjugated.
     
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    We can control politicians faster than we can corporations.

    The corporations are the ones who RIGHT NOW want to get rid of coverage for pre-existing conditions. You cannot vote out an insurance company...

    We've done it their way since Nixon and Kaiser FUCKED us in 73' with the HMO act.

    Healthcare should NOT have a profit motive.

    The way you want it does not solve the problem with access to the system.
     
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    You also gotta understand the profit motive from having prisoners work.

    Right now, we have for profit prisons and our executions are privatized.

    Fucking SHAMEFUL.
     
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    The government wouldn't need to advertise for new clients. The government wouldn't need to make a profit. The government wouldn't need multiple different record systems. The government wouldn't need to negotiate multiple contracts with each provider.

    Realizing those savings would depend on an efficient implementation, which is of course not guaranteed - but there are savings to be had.

    barfo
     
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    Good points regarding the profit agenda of the private vs government
     
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    Oh I agree about private prisons. Seen too many stories where judges sent kids to prison for kickbacks and stuff like that. Total conflict of interest.

    Besides, if someone is going to make money off of prisoners it should be society.
     
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    Again, we don't know what went down. I have been ejected from a bar by cops. Leave or be arrested on criminal trespass. Once the call has been made most places will not back down. I worked where we did it many nights a week usually call the police when they were out on the sidewalk
    to keep them from coming back. Next day new game. People learn, some don't.
     
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    >>>No and the insurance company does not either when managing a Self Insured Employers system

    >>> My guess is this is not so. I imagine the the government GSA personnel are more costly than the Insurance company clerical personnel.
    No doubt better benefits too.

    >>> Don't know.

    >>>When I was covered, we had no contracted providers. My coverage was good world wide, what ever provider. I might have to pay them directly, but I had a reimbursement path.
     
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    I am not at all sure what the government does here.
    I got a summary of all the charges the VA payed on my behalf to provider this past summer for a vist to the emergency room at the Bandon Hospital.

    Many of the charges stated the "contract" amount payed. Which was to be considered full payment, none to be passed on the the Vet.
    I have to say though, I imagine the $5800+ was cost shifted well above cost to make up for the 40% that pay nothing.
     
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    Ok, better to call it cost of customer acquisition instead of advertising. The insurance companies still have to compete against each other for business, and that costs money.

    You think the government is a for-profit entity?

    That is possible - but not necessarily true.

    barfo
     
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    Just make up shit, as disgraced British spy Christopher Steele and Dem's GPS Fusion did.

    In the court of public opinion, no proof is needed. Just make it salacious. It's like tossing red meat to a pack of hyenas.

    Half the posters here actually believe, or claim to believe, that Donald Trump went to Russia to pay some hookers to pee on a mattress.

    I think it was you who posted the Gary Hart was framed story, yet you swallow every absurd lie about Trump that sees print.
     
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    You do realize that this is an ultimate goal of Democratic Socialism, along with the dismantling of the other Amendments and the dissolving of the US Constitution?
     
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    Absolutely. What did you think happened to our tax dollars?

    Pelosi profited enough to layoff government workers but then take an all expense-paid Kona vacation on the tax dollars from those laid-off workers. Gave herself a $20,000 raise on top of it.

    If it weren't a for profit entity we'd have free healthcare, food, shelter...

    Like in China, or in prison.

    Not a fan of either form of rape, I just want to keep most of my money and fend for my family and myself.

    The part-time job of a Congressman/woman is worth about $40 an hour, and only for hours actually working, not campaigning. There should be a test to be certain they are qualified to make decisions for the country, regardless of buying/winning an election. Few of our current reps in DC have any real knowledge of the foundations of our government, our country's history and place in the world, rudimentary math, or basic negotiating skills. Most have allegations of fraud or infidelity, and many merely serve the corporations that bought them their seat.

    Drain the entire swamp (bureaucratic and administrative), slash agency budgets 30%, replace the Deep State-controlled FBI and DOJ with a single agency staffed with all new employees from our military, and eliminate all grants, loans, and matching funds of any kind to anyone.
     
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    Ah, now we're talking about slavery, the British Blemish on our early days as a Nation.

    Some very brave men stood up against titans of industry, against the Democratic Party, against some of their own party, to demand all men be treated as equals.

    Who were these heroes of equality in America? :dunno:

    That's right.

    A bunch of Caucasian Republicans.

    The Radical Republicans were a faction of American politicians within the Republican Party of the United States from around 1854 (before the American Civil War) until the end of Reconstruction in 1877. They called themselves "Radicals" with a sense of a complete permanent eradication of slavery and secessionism, without compromise. They were opposed during the War by the moderate Republicans (led by U.S. President Abraham Lincoln), by the conservative Republicans, and by the anti-abolitionist and anti-Reconstruction Democratic Party as well as by conservatives in the South and liberals in the North during Reconstruction. Radicals led efforts after the war to establish civil rights for former slaves and fully implement emancipation. After weaker measures resulted in 1866 in violence against former slaves in the rebel states, Radicals pushed the Fourteenth Amendment and statutory protections through Congress. They disfavored allowing ex-Confederates officers to retake political power in the south, and emphasized equality, civil rights and voting rights for the "freedpeople", i.e. people who had been enslaved by state slavery laws within the United States.[1]

    During the war, Radical Republicans opposed Lincoln's initial selection of General George B. McClellan for top command of the major eastern Army of the Potomac and his efforts to bring seceded Southern states back into the Union as quickly and easily as possible. Lincoln later recognized McClellan's weakness and relieved him of command. The Radicals passed their own reconstruction plan through the Congress in 1864, but Lincoln vetoed it and was putting his own presidential policies in effect by virtue as military commander-in-chief when he was assassinated in April 1865.[2] Radicals pushed for the uncompensated abolition of slavery, while Lincoln wanted to pay slave owners who were loyal to the Union. After the war, the Radicals demanded civil rights for freed US slaves, including measures ensuring suffrage. They initiated the various Reconstruction Acts as well as the Fourteenth Amendment and limited political and voting rights for ex-Confederate civil officials and military officers. They keenly fought U.S. President Andrew Johnson, a former slave owner from Tennessee who favored allowing southern states to decide the rights and status of former slaves. After he vetoed various Congressional acts favoring civil rights for former slaves, they attempted to remove him from office through impeachment, which failed by one vote in 1868.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_Republican
     
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    The republican party of today is a far cry of what the party use to be. The Tea Party and now the Freedom Caucus are blood sucking parasites that only look out for themself and not the majority of Americans. Is that why you are such a head in the sand die hard republican?
     
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    Pretty sure Trump gave it to the large corporations and the 1% rich people. Everyone else got peanuts or less.
    McConnell made enough money that his in laws were able to invest in the cocaine business.
     

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