Portland Suicide Rate Triple National Average

I wasn't arguing, but presenting some information that kind of showed that your theory might be flawed. Usually, if someone presents an idea, and you can discount it, people don't need to respond in the defensive stance that you did.

And my pointing out that other cities, some with worse weather than Portland and some with better weather than Portland (and same with jobs/unemployment), seems to point out a simple fact. It's too complex of an issue to just paint it with a generic or blanket statement (i.e., it's because of the "shitty weather 9 months of the year". For example? Tucson has nice weather year round, and a lot of attractive easy women, and a decent economy).

Pointing out a flaw in your theory does not mean I have to justify my own counter theory, or even counter points. Unless you want to set the bar that high that all counter points (or questions about the subject/theory presented) must be presented with theories otherwise it's just arguing for the sake of arguing.

If that's the case, most of the board would remain silent.

As for my theory? I don't know. I thought at one point that weather would play a role. But, as I posted (albeit, maybe poorly) when I saw that weather does not have a direct correlation to suicide rates (both attempts and suicidal thoughts), it got me wondering.

Why would cities that have significantly better weather, have similar or even higher rates than Portland, if weather plays a significant role (or a role at all)?

What is an other, common factor? Age of the person? gender? lack of decent mental health care?

As someone who went through a suicidal phase (as I mentioned in mooks thread a couple weeks ago), I know that Portlands weather wasn't the cause of it. Nor was employment. And I've often wondered what it was that causes (other) peoples suicidal thoughts or attempts. I take this issue seriously, and don't just make flippant comments about weather because it's funny, or clever or makes a subtle dig at those who don't think weather is an issue.

I've actually looked into the causes, and weather or lack of vitamin D, doesn't play a significant role.

But, please, feel free to assume that it's because I just apparently arguing with you.

 

Well, you are just an evil bastard.

:MARIS61:

 

I wasn't!

YOU Я A BASTARD!

 

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to EL PRESIDENTE again.

 

If it is really an issue for you, you can report it/flag it, and it will be dealt with.

 

I didn't agree with the editing of your one post (I felt it was poorly worded, or at least, worded purposely to create an easy out if caught/edited). But I also don't think his post should be edited.

I think there is a difference, though, in saying "your post is baseless in fact and ignorant" and "you are ignorant".

I'd rather my posts be called that then me be called that.

btw, upon reading the thread again (love doing that), I think you should try it. In my very first post, I said

If I was just being argumentative or combative, I doubt I would have taken the time to find a page to source things (although the link I thought provided apparently didn't work). Nor would I have started with the "I wonder what the underline cause is" comment.

My response to yours, if taken grossly out of context, could be seen as what you said. But taken in the context of my 1st post, and my 3rd post (seen here, and this post here, seems to suggest maybe it was that I actually was putting effort into posts, and not just seeking your name and arguing.

You seem to be very defensive and seeking arguments. is everything ok?