Portland Trail Blazers rebuild, what do you think?!

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  1. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    The key is adding two-way players. We drafted Zach Collins hoping he could give us that at PF, as Aminu and Vonleh are good defenders that hurt us offensively.

    We need to find a two-way SF. Someone like Jae Crowder would be perfect.
     
  2. Mr. Robot

    Mr. Robot Well-Known Member

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    Crowder could be available if they trade for Hayward
     
  3. RipCityDSCPL

    RipCityDSCPL Could be worse, at least it's not Lonzo.

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    I think you are selling Cash Considerations short there Sly. That guy is a rising superstar.

    Olshey absolutely fleeced Houston in this trade!

    We now have a Big 4. Golden State better watch out cause we are coming for them!
     
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    OSUBlazerfan Writing Team

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    Um, Hayward is a FA
     
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  5. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    I think we'll be top 4 next year with HOU, GSW, and SAS.
     
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    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Or the NHL
     
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    Mr. Robot Well-Known Member

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    yeah I forget it, but nevertheless, if they bring Hayward, Crowder should be available and Olshey should snatch him right away
     
  8. BigGameDamian

    BigGameDamian Well-Known Member

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    Celtics don't want our junk.
     
  9. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    But they might want our FEEC* to clear cap space to sign Hayward. FEEC for Crowder works straight up and saves frees up $6.8 million in cap space.

    *Technically, that should be FENGC.

    BNM
     
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    Strenuus Well-Known Member

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    You just exploded the computer that is BGD.

    He doesn't understand anything beyond "lol untouchable, Drink like a fish, and the old nba is better."
     
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    We are going to have to win a title at the end of another dynasty. Kind of like what Detroit did with Boston and LA. By the time GS has a down year Collins and Swanigan will hopefully be peaking. Dame will have to be in it for the long hall of he wants a window of opportunity. And that's not counting who arises in the East. Just the way it is unless we pull off some unforseen lopsided trade.
     
  12. noknobs

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    You serious? Teams sure have a weird way of showing that. This years draft:
    1. Freshman (age 19)
    2. Freshman (age 19)
    3. Freshman (age 19)
    4. Freshman (age 20)
    5. Freshman (age 19)
    6. Freshman (age 19)
    7. Freshman (age 20)
    8. French professional basketball player (18)
    9. Freshman (age 19)
    10. Freshman (age 19)
    11. Freshman (age 19)
    The average age is exactly 19.
     
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  13. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Very true, but how many of those teams will realistically be playing for a title in the next 5 or 6 years. Most will be right back in the lottery. They aren't looking to compete now. They are hoping one of those teenagers becomes the next great superstar they can build a contender around. If not, they'll keep trying, over and over, and over...

    BNM
     
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    BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 AWOL

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    I think FENGC and our 2018 1st would be a fair deal for both teams in this scenario
     
  15. tester551

    tester551 Well-Known Member

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    Hopefully at least 1... preferably the team who picked at #10
     
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  16. PDXFonz

    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    I didn't know this was a psychics forum, thought it was a basketball forum. Lots of palm readers the past few days.
     
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    noknobs Well-Known Member

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    With the turnover of GM's in this league I doubt there are many teams who "aren't looking to compete now." I'm sure some teams are aware that given their current situation/roster/cap status which they inherited from last season, that a championship next year is unlikely, but 5 or 6 years? No GM on earth is planning to be a non-playoff team for half that long. You don't waste a top 10 pick on someone you believe will "do little to improve a team", or who is "either not mature mentally or physically to help out (maybe neither.).", because you'd be run out of town. Teams pick 19 year olds not because they aren't planning on competing but because they're gambling that they'll pick the 19 year old who will be a stud from the start. There are exceptions, so I'm sure you can find some.
     
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    The fact that they are all 19 kind of proves the point. No one is saying they are not the best players in the draft, just that they just are not good enough to make a difference....not for a few years anyways. So if the plan is to tank and rebuild through the draft then the timeline needs to be adjusted. I still believe in building through the draft, but I view it more like MLB now.
    Keep the pipeline filled with good young players, and hopefully develop them.
     
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    noknobs Well-Known Member

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    I look at the last 10 rookies of the year and see that 6 of them had only a year of college, and another two had just two years of college. And many of the runner ups each year. The teams wanted them to be a big part of what they were doing, gave them the opportunity to make an impact, and they did.

    Just because a team then goes on to suck for several more years doesn't mean it's because the team drafted for three years down the line. Sometimes teams suck just because they suck. It's because their plan failed, not because it's the plan. The exception might be late in the season when your already eliminated from the playoffs.
     
  20. HailBlazers

    HailBlazers RipCity

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