Portland trying to get PAUL MILLSAP!

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  1. Crimson the Cat

    Crimson the Cat Well-Known Member

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    Doing the math in my head $10m and another $3m if they cut two players.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Shouldn't we wait to see if it is true or not? For all we know he's just drunk and having a laugh.

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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    I would absolutely love this signing. In my opinion, Millsap was the best free agent on the market, factoring in ability and age. Odom was a similarly good player and a better fit, but older. Either Millsap or Odom would be a fantastic get, to me.

    I think an Oden/Aldridge/Millsap front court can work. True that Aldridge gave up a high PER at center, but some of that is likely sample size. I think (just an assumption based on his size and athleticism) that he can play center effectively and that allows Millsap to essentially back up both PF and C.

    Plus, Millsap should be a very tradeable asset in six months and there's no specific "expiration date" on his trade value.
     
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  4. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    It's called getting maximum value. Paying Aldridge a probable 10-11 million, Milsap a likely 7.5 million, Oden a possible 10+ million dollar extension next year (depending on the cap and performance) and Joel with the ability to opt out next season and probably commanding somewhere around 7 million a year for 5 years that's a lot of money tied up in your frontcourt and also too many bodies and not enough minutes to go around. Getting Milsap and paying him all of that money means you need to get at least 28+ minutes per game out of him and that only happens if you divide up the backup power forward and center minutes. Assuming LMA plays 36 minutes, Oden manages to keep himself on the court for 30 minutes (God I hope!) that leaves you with 30 minutes for Milsap and Przybilla to divvy up -- that's bad value for the money you are spending, especially when this team could probably dangle Joel as a trade piece and get some real interest; just consider the dearth of quality 7+ footers in the league. The Blazers need some help at the point guard position or could use a more mature and consistent third scorer from the wing this could be the best way to get this done.

    As a hypothetical:
    1. Acquire Milsap in free agency
    2. offer Travis and Joel or Blake and Joel and see what you can get.
     
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    I'm not sure what you're saying here. He guards plenty of post players well who are listed as both PFs and Centers... what backup 5 would score all over him? On the other end he'd play mostly high post when teamed with either Millsap or Greg. Whats the problem?

    btw... I'd love for this to happen. Then send Blake and Joel to Chicago for Kirk to complete the picture.

    Kirk Bayless
    Roy Rudy
    Batum Outlaw
    LA Millsap
    Greg LA & someone with 6 fouls

    :feelbass:

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    oldmangrouch persona non grata

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    3. He isn't hung up on being a "starter".
     
  7. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    After his BYC expires.
     
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    So, either would be fantastic, but both can work?

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    Who they going to dump him on? It's us or OKC withenough salary cap space to absorb most or all of Boozer
     
  10. Ed O

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    Nah. Assuming he's not literally lying, I appreciate him bringing us a report that is pretty robust. Even if it turns out that the sources he has are wrong, I am happy that he's breaking rumor news. :)

    Ed O.
     
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    Foulzilla No Blood, No Foul.

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    I would like this signing. I really think he could play Brian Grant to Aldridge's 'Sheed. Of course, I would be in favor of Lee also, presuming he is content to playing a backup. I think rebounding is very important, and having a great rebounder on the floor at all times between Oden and Millsap would be a nice luxury. Both of them can help cover up Aldridge's weakness there. Of course, it goes without saying Joel would have to be moved. But he could bring us a nice piece in trade, but it's the only way the Millsap signing makes sense to me.
     
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    The way I see it playing out is that Oden and LMA play about 18 minutes per game, and by that time we are up by 40 so Przy and Millsap get 30 minutes apiece.

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    So me and a friend were just talking about this. It came to mind that I read something about Milsap's agent being upset with the way things were being handled in Utah. If I was an agent, I would be looking for some leverage. What better leverage is there, then a division rival making an offer to your client? Are sources sure about this, or is this some more spew from an agent trying to get a deal done? :devilwink:
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Yeah, that's certainly an option ...
     
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    I really like the end result here.

    Sign Millsap then trade Travis, Blake, Joel for Deng and Hinrich. That would be a great offseason.

    Although since we would be using our cap space to get Paul I think we would need to include an extra player to Chicago, possibly a deal with Martell. Chicago wouldn't want him, but it would be necessary for salaries to match and this would still save them massive dollars for the declining cap next season. If Martell can't recover from his injury they could get an injury exception (is any of his deal non-guaranteed?)

    Hinrich/Bayless
    Roy/Rudy
    Deng/Batum
    LMA/Millsap
    Oden

    Lamarcus would play a lot of 5 and our SF's could get some burn at the 4.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I guess we'll find out tomorrow :dunno:
     
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    Right, good point. The lower limit on when he can be traded wasn't key to me, just that it's no longer a "use soon or lose" asset.

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  18. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    You could probably pencil Pendergraph in for some backup 5 minutes. God knows if he's going to be able to be effective, but he's 6'10" and he was a pretty good/smart defender at ASU
     
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    Chuck Taylor BATUUUM SHAKKA LAKKA!

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    If this is true, and we end up trading Joel, I could see him going to Houston for Battier.
     
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    It just so happens that I'm from the Amazon.

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