Portland @ Warriors

Discussion in 'Golden State Warriors' started by Rudeezy, Feb 20, 2004.

  1. thePHentity

    thePHentity JBB JustBBall Member

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    what? musselman didn't do anything wrong. the players didn't rebound.
     
  2. Gohn

    Gohn JBB JustBBall Member

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    What happened during the final mintue? I don't have the game on tv, I was following on the net.

    NVE looked like had a good game according to the scoreboard, but I can't really tell what happened from numbers except they lost by 1.
     
  3. gina

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    Thanks for the update custodianrules.

    Why can't we blame the coach if we keep losing by one point?
     
  4. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    Yeah Musselman did somethings wrong when you have three guards in the game. You lose the size and length to grab rebounds and box out. But I guess there was nothing he can do with the injuries and all. Except maybe play Pietrus more. I sick of these small ball tactics that don't win games because the other team just effortlessly puts in point blank shots. I mean when you got two small guards, one of which is defending a bigger 6'5 guard, the help defense comes off his man to help and then they dish to the guy left all alone under the basket. It happened in the Lakes game and it happend again tonight. The warriors have got to go bigger and start using size to make rebounding easier. For that play I would have used cheaney even.
     
  5. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting gina:</div><div class="quote_post">Thanks for the update custodianrules.

    Why can't we blame the coach if we keep losing by one point?</div>

    No problem. I'm upset also because the Custodian's shots wouldn't go in even though some rattled out and were close to staying down. That's one thing that could have made the difference is that the Custodian made at least 40% of his shots. He had an off night. I think if he didn't shoot more and just concentrated on fighting for posessions like he was earlier we'd have a bigger lead.
     
  6. gina

    gina JBB JustBBall Member

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah Musselman did somethings wrong when you have three guards in the game. You lose the size and length to grab rebounds and box out. But I guess there was nothing he can do with the injuries and all. Except maybe play Pietrus more. I sick of these small ball tactics that don't win games because the other team just effortlessly puts in point blank shots. I mean when you got two small guards, one of which is defending a bigger 6'5 guard, the help defense comes off his man to help and then they dish to the guy left all alone under the basket. It happened in the Lakes game and it happend again tonight. </div>

    Wow. I didn't get to watch but yeah that's tough.
     
  7. Gohn

    Gohn JBB JustBBall Member

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    I just saw a highlight on espn, I don't believe they let the blazers get an easy layup to win the game. I wouldn't mind if it was a contested jumper,but a layup. that shouldn't happen. I think that the last should be blamed on the players and not the coach. I don't know about the other parts of the game, but that play was the player's fault
     
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    And they let the blazers, get the offensive rebound after a miss.
    I don't think you can totally blame musselman, because the game would have been over the blazers didn't get another shot.

    Same thing with the lakers game, they didn't secure the rebound off the foul shot.

    I'm beginining to think that it has to do more with the players and not as much the coach.
     
  9. Purple N Gold

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    That was a horrible defensive effort by the Warriors when Portland scored to take the lead by 1. You could just see it, that their was a hole in the defense, and they exploited it. Could have easily been stolen, once again Warriors hand out another win. Also, a better shot should have been set up on the last shot for the Warriors. A pass to Van Exel, and a pass right back to Cliff taking that three way out the 3 point line was not a good call. I actually think the play was put for Van Exel to go and score. Bad call by Musselman, should have had something set up. Didn't see the game, because I was watching the Lakers, but that is a disgusting loss to take.
     
  10. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    I don't think Musselman and his coaching staff understand point production versus points given up. Sure it looked great with Speedy and Qwik on the floor together. They were very efficient scorers, but they gave up points on the defensive end and didn't get to the line as much. Long story short, create for the big man. Get size in there even though you'll still have a mismatch due to 6'9 forward Darius Miles and 6'9 'Reef and 6'5 Derek Anderson. None of this small ball because you will pay for it in second chance points and failing in getting defensive boards. Rebounding is a team effort.
     
  11. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Gohn:</div><div class="quote_post">And they let the blazers, get the offensive rebound after a miss.
    I don't think you can totally blame musselman, because the game would have been over the blazers didn't get another shot.

    Same thing with the lakers game, they didn't secure the rebound off the foul shot.

    I'm beginining to think that it has to do more with the players and not as much the coach.</div>

    Well get some guys in there who can rebound. Hell put Cardinal in there. He had only 10 boards. Just don't let him shoot.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">Well get some guys in there who can rebound. Hell put Cardinal in there. He had only 10 boards. Just don't let him shoot.</div>

    I agree, having speedy and NVE on the floor at the same time is not a good idea, defensivley. Thats one of the reasons why I wouldn't want the warriors to draft Nelson.

    You're right Musselman should have put in some rebounders in there especially after the blazers called timeout.

    I would never have speedy and nve in for the last defensive play of game, thats bad coaching. Its also common sense, if you have you need to get a stop you have to put in your best defensive players.
     
  13. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Gohn:</div><div class="quote_post">I agree, having speedy and NVE on the floor at the same time is not a good idea, defensivley. Thats one of the reasons why I wouldn't want the warriors to draft Nelson.

    You're right Musselman should have put in some rebounders in there especially after the blazers called timeout.

    I would never have speedy and nve in for the last defensive play of game, thats bad coaching. Its also common sense, if you have you need to get a stop you have to put in your best defensive players.</div>

    Exactly.
     
  14. Warriorfansnc93

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    Another 1 point loss. What a shame. I wonder what will happen. I hope they do not go into a slump. I agree with Custodian, that rebounding or lack of rebounding in the 4th quarter have hurt the Warriors in the last 2 games.
     
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    I would also like to see Petrius get some minutes in the last half of the season. If it looks like the Warriors are not going to make the playoffs, they should develop the young talent.
     
  16. Purple N Gold

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    I'm going to be honest, the last 2 Warrior games have been giveaways. Both Lakers and Blazers did not play well enough down the stretch to win those games. Warriors are truly lacking that "go-to-guy"(well, and a bunch of mistakes), IMO I think they need Claxton/Van Exel out there at the same time. Claxton is what makes this Warrior team go, but Van Exel is that type of guy to can score and take over games. Cliff has had some success of that this year, and so has J-Rich, but they need help somewhere. It's almost like their scared out there when games get close, and I agree it is also because the type of unit Musselman throws out. At the end of the games, the lineup should be something like this.

    C- Dampier
    PF- Cliff Robinson
    SF- Brian Cardinal
    SG- Van Exel/Richardson
    PG- Claxton

    Simple, that lineup right there can lock up games, those are the guys you can count on to give solid defensive efforts(except NVE), and get it done on the offensive side as well. Possibly even throw Cheaney out there if you need some stops, Warriors have the depth throughout the game to give the starters some fresh legs for the 4th, so their should be no reason why they let games go like this.
     
  17. Rudeezy

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    I did not get a chance to see this game and I'm glad I didn't. I know its better to lose a close one and be competitive than to get blown out but it is just so damn frustrating. We are right there in all of these games but we can't put them away. The Warriors are like a hot girl, a damn tease.
     
  18. Warriorfansnc93

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rudeezy:</div><div class="quote_post">I did not get a chance to see this game and I'm glad I didn't. I know its better to lose a close one and be competitive than to get blown out but it is just so damn frustrating. We are right there in all of these games but we can't put them away. The Warriors are like a hot girl, a damn tease.</div>

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  19. Purple N Gold

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rudeezy:</div><div class="quote_post">The Warriors are like a hot girl, a damn tease.</div>

    Not if your able to hook up with one. [​IMG] :biggrin2:
     
  20. thePHentity

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    wth...blaming the coach because of 1 point losses is ludicrous...you need to blame execution by the players. blame the coach when you lose by 20, not by 1. the blazers continuously missed shot after shot and our team didn't rebound and you're going to blame the coach? come on.
     

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