Trade Idea Post and Discuss Trade Ideas for the 2019-20 Season

Otto Porter also; won't have another evaluation until January 10 on his foot. Only played 56 games last year. I like the guy but would be leary of his durability. But he has only next year on his contract I think.

 

I think Cleveland really likes Nance; they are going to give him and Thompson up for a 2nd round pick?

 

I doubt Cleveland makes Nance available for a 2nd round pick.

+Portland's 1st round pick. I thin Bogdan is worth a 1st and Ariza probably has negative value so it's better for them to do that than just giving him away for a 1st from some other team and I think there will be plenty of suitors.


Gives a good playmaker off the bench as Bogdan is a lead guard on the floor while Ariza can start at SF, he is still good for a few things.

 

Theyd keep Whiteside. They could probably contend with him.

 

Itd be for Whiteside and a 2nd, where theyd probably try to trade Whiteside for additional value.

Ariza only has $1M guaranteed next year so he doesnt have negative value.

 

See above.

 

It's a very special case that of Hassan. If I were a GM I would never trade for him unless I have a 30 minute hole at the 5 and want to make him an integral part of the team. It's difficult really because the moment he doesn't feel indispensable he loses interest. Happened two seasons in a row with Miami.

In any case I'm sure Cleveland will first try and get something for Love and then Tristan and after that they won't have many big bodies left, Nance feels important for their future.

 

Let’s look at some of the guys in Whitesides/Baze range that might realistically be available

Kevin Love: doesn’t play defense, perpetually injured, and most importantly still owed $90M.

Blake Griffin: bad knee, will make nearly $40M the next two seasons, has played more than 70 games ONCE in the past six years.

Otto Porter: Making $25m+ and grades out as maybe a slightly above average starter. Injured. I sense a theme.

LaMarcus: the one that actually makes sense, but that also means it would cost more than just an expiring and a non lottery pick. Would you give up Simons or Zach for a season and a half of Aldridge? I probably would give up Simons, because I’m confident Aldridge would re-sign after next season, but I get it if others aren’t.

 

Otto Porter is a nice player but it seems many over rate him as his numbers are solid but nothing that jumps out at you and like you said, his injury history is concerning as well. his current contract runs through the next year where he will be owed 28.6 mil. Huge salary for a 15ppg, 6rpg and 2 apg stats. I think there are better values out there.

 

At that time he's a 32 year old center with a game based on athleticism and a history of being a difficult personality.

Maybe they would be interested in using him as a short term starter. I dont think there is any way they give up future assets now for only the possibility of that scenario... Even if it plays out, has such marginal upside.

 

If some contending team decides they need a center and offers us long term value sure we should consider moving Whiteside.

I just dont see that as realistic.

Keeping Whiteside is fine if the offers are very late protected second round picks and overpaid players.

Being able to resign him in the summer is possibly worth something to us, even if it's likely he instead will leave.

 

Harrell could get traded for a rim protector.

"It would make more sense for the Clippers if they were open to trading Harrell to benefit the franchise this season. Their Achilles’ heel this season is defending opposition big men.

In the recent game against the Oklahoma City Thunder, Steven Adams dined out with 20 points and 17 rebounds. While the Thunder probably won’t be in the mix at the business end of the season, there are plenty of dangerous big men that will be".

 

I think they shouldnt be going after “a fake star” type player, and looking to turn Baze / Whiteside into 2-3 guys who can contribute to depth over the next 2-3 years. They shouldnt find them in a position where an injury or two has them starting a journeyman SF at C...

 

I am in favor of not making a trade. I have yet to see a good reason to really make one. In it's current guise this Portland team cannot beat anyone but the worst teams. They will probably make the playoffs then be swept. No trade target will change a first round exit.

 

I think thats the reason, you trade him knowing you arent going anywhere this year even with him and hoping to bring talent who can be a part of a winning team when your front line is healthier. Keeping him only makes sense if you’re trying to make a run this year.

 

you're really pushing hard on this idea....and I'm not trying to be combative here by the way

if I follow you correctly, I haven't really seen you pushing for somebody like Love. It seems more like you are saying try to land a player or two for added depth next season and just assume this season is a bust. Go for guys maybe on MLE-level contracts, or less, that could keep Portland below the tax line next year....do I have that right?

I'm wondering if you have any specific players in mind....and maybe more importantly if any of them would be worth that Blazer 1st round pick this year?

I mean, I'm looking at the list of multi-year contracts and not seeing anything that appealing

https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/players.html

 

Turning Baze into a couple solid rotation caliber players is something I’d prefer as well. Trading Whiteside just depends on Nurk (and Collins) really.

 

The contracts don't have to match up with those players though. Having that much salary in exprings lets you trade for just about anyone in the league that becomes available.

For example, with Detroit they could do a deal around Rose, Snell, and Morris for Bazemore and a throw-in (plus a pick or something). Detroit gets out of having to pay those guys next year. Then all of a sudden our bench next year has Rose, Simons, Snell, Little, Morris (maybe), Trent, and Skal (maybe). Add a big in free agency using the MLE or in that situation keep Whiteside and re-sign him with that bench mob.

 

Here’s one I like

Thaddeus Young and Denzel Valentine for Bazemore and a pick

 

I still like the idea of Covington and Dieng for Whiteside. Covington is an All-Defensive team level defender and shoots an average 3 point percentage on high volume. Dieng isn't great but would be fine as a stop gap until players are healthy. They could always use the Hood DPE to get another body for depth too.

I really don't think they'd fall off much if at all this year and next year having Dame, CJ, Hood, Covington, Collins, and Nurk is a really good core that could actually be a force defensively. Fill out the roster with savvy value moves and the young guns (Little, Simons, Trent, Skal) and I think they could be really good.