Trade Idea Post and Discuss Trade Ideas for the 2019-20 Season

Cov is extremely movable. They can get a decent first for that one and maybe a third or fourth tier young talent. Depending on the outlook in a few games, our first for 2020 should be of interest, but how much extra value would you be willing to attach? Little? As in Nasir?

 

Would you give up a lottery protected first for Aaron Gordon

 

he's got a PER of 13.4 when the league average is 15; He has a TS% which is quite a bit worse than Hezonja; and his rebounding rate isn't good either. This is his worst season though. He's a poor perimeter shooter which doesn't mesh in the Stotts offense. Those aren't impressive numbers. On the other hand, between 2015-2020, Gordon had a better RAPM than Zach, Aminu, Harkless, and Hood....but he gets paid 2-3 times as much

I don't think he moves the needle, so no, I probably wouldn't give up the 1st for him...maybe

 

Hell no!

 

Okay, fair enough. I do feel like that is just focusing on a small part of my plan while brushing off getting assets and getting completely out of a huge tax payment this season though.

 

well, I'll give you that to a degree, but to be honest, I've got kind of glazed eyes after all the trade ideas I've seen for Hassan and Baze....I've lost track. Most don't seem realistic at all because they don't really account for what other teams would want

 

Shorter contracts would acccount for something, if only this free agent summer would be good....

 

Officially yes, but Portland is eligible to have a 16-man roster right now. When a team has 4 or more players that are out for 4+ games, a team can temporarily add a 16th man.

 

You're talking about the trade you suggested where Portland would get Batum & Willy & 2-2nds?

Getting out of the tax this year would be a major +.
Willy Hernangómez is an asset... but a minor one. Maybe worth an early 2nd.
2-2nds are minor assets too.

Batum is NOT an asset. He's a HUGE liability with that contract and his performance over the last 2+ years.

Best case, one could argue that the trade would be a net neutral trade.


I'm not against trading Whiteside & Baze for contracts that extend into next year, but if Portland does do it - they need to be <$15m in salary.

 

The reason why I go back and forth with Gordon is because to me he does a lot of the things Aminu did, but is younger, a better overall shooter and a better playmaker. The contract isn’t ideal, but it does depreciate and I don’t see Portland being a player on the market anyway. If he could be had for an expiring and a lottery protected first, I would at least consider it.

 

since KAT has been out Dieng has been shooting 46.5% from 3p range on 1.9 makes/4.1 attempts per game/14 games
dieng over that same 14 game stretch/25 minutes/gm 12.5 pts. 8.7 reb. 1.3 stls. and .9 blks.
their defense has been top 10 league wise during same period.
i think minnesota would want more. our lottery protected first at a minimum IMHO

 

Speaking of Aminu, I would rather trade a 1st for an injured Aminu than for Gordon.

 

Different draft last year obviously but the value of early 2nd round picks was insane, but I never claimed they were major assets. Not once did I claim that Batum himself had anything but negative value other than his contract being useful next year. It may not be but like I said that saves Jody a shit ton of money. Unlike this year's free agency class the 2021 class is looking pretty good and there will be more teams looking for cap space next year. In addition to Batum's contract the Blazers would have a $19+ million TPE. The Blazers could even trade some of those picks for future picks. The more future picks and young players they have the more likely trades become when you have the ability to take on salary or offer a big expiring.

They'd have the assets to offer Batum and a bunch of picks/young players to Minnesota for Dieng and Covington (which I hope is being pursued right now without all this other stuff) or could just take Covington on without giving back salary for pick(s) depending on how high ours ended up.

I'm fine going your route to get contracts that are less next year but I don't think there is a way to do that while reducing the tax by much.

You'd be looking at trades like Whiteside for Cody Zeller, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, and the Cleveland 2nd. I wouldn't like that trade at all but I think it's better than keeping Whiteside on the team past Feb 6th.

 

That's a pretty expensive second round pick as we take on an extra year salary of $15.4 mil dollars for it as Kidd-Gilchrist is an expiring contract and likely walks. What teams will have 10-15 mil cap space or more next year?

 

Are you asking what teams will have cap space this summer?

 

Yes, in the range of 10-15 mil or more.

 

Well the MLE is going to be close to $10 million so pretty much every team

 

Ok, then 13 mil or more

 

Bazemore, Little & Hezonja for Andrew Wiggins works.

 

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/cap/2021/

Google search is not hard...