Post-deadline Olshey Keep or Fire

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by BonesJones, Feb 8, 2018.

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What to do with Olshey?

  1. Keep Him

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  2. I don't know/On the fence

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  3. Fire Him

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  1. Hobbesarable

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    Yep. I admit I thought the same thing.

    I was hesitant about the contracts ET and Crabbe received, but I was hoping one or both would live up to it.

    Many of us thought we got a nice deal for Hark and many in here were against signing Meyers.
     
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    Who? (Rhetorical question)
     
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    This has to be a sign to come for GMs who splurged in the summer of 16. Kupchak is a UNC connection, so the whole nepotism thing continues with MJ.
     
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    Not surprised in the least.
    Cho seems like a nice enough guy - but his talent evaluation left a lot to be desired. As much as I complain about Olshey - NO is an upgrade from Cho.
     
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    He got us the pick that became Damian Lillard, didn't he? I will always thank him for that.
     
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    Yeah, but if Cho had still been here, that pick probably would have been Harrison F***ing Barnes.
     
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    Cho traded for Gerald Wallace (against his wishes). It was Chad Buchanan who traded Wallace for the pick that became Lillard.
     
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    Ahhh my bad.
     
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    If we didn't overpay we'd have a FULL Moe available this summer to sign a better player than Turner to a $8.3M or cheaper contract, instead of paying Turner $18M a year.
     
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    There is clearly some misconception that spending your entire wad of money means that you made smart decisions with player acquisition.

    I don't think anyone is advocating not spending money. Most of us are saying wait until you can find a difference maker.

    You don't pay $200 to eat at McDonalds - simply because in no way will they ever have that type of value.
    Likewise, you don't pay Crabbe $18M per year, or ET $17M per year. You don't pay Meyers $10M per year and HOPE they ever have that type of value.

    Crabbe is worth $7-8M, ET $5-6M, and Meyers $2-3M.

    If you can't acquire players at their real value - it's better to not acquire them at all.

    What's better - having $3M of dead cap space over the next 6 years (as a result of Crabbe) or having Connaughton for $2M? Having ET at $17M (that you can't even GIVE away) or Gerald Green, Gerald Henderson, Garrett Temple, or some other player paid at their actual value (or below)?
     
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    The sky was falling when we were "stuck" with Crabbe's contract.

    There's that.
     
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    Stating that players are overpaid is a completely different discussion than the flexibility argument.

    They could've still retained Gerald Henderson. They could've still signed Gerald Green to a minimum contract as could the other 28 teams at any point before Houston did. They can still keep Connaughton. Sure, I'd rather have Garrett Temple at $8 million than Turner but you can say that about free agents every year and Turner was the better player heading into free agency that summer.

    I can't speak for @Denny Crane but I don't think anyone is claiming that the players they signed were smart moves. This discussion was about flexibility and the loss of it if not used.
     
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    Actually that's not the only thing that came out of the Noah trade. A short sighted person would conclude that, but by getting under the luxury tax it improves the ability to do better deals.
     
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    Man, that is a fact. It would not be difficult for Walton to "just" run Kerr's system. They both played for the same coach using the same system.
     

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