Post-deadline Olshey Keep or Fire

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by BonesJones, Feb 8, 2018.

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What to do with Olshey?

  1. Keep Him

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  2. I don't know/On the fence

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  3. Fire Him

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  1. OneLifeToLive

    OneLifeToLive Well-Known Member

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    When asking this question...you need to ask how much responsibility does the owner share in what or what is not going on. Is Neil working under a model that they both collaboratively put together 6 years ago? Is it a model that was used in the early to mid 80's that eventually led to a championship caliber team in the earlier 90's? Putting together a collection of talent and if you give them enough time together will eventually lead to great things? Are they working under a model that will lead to the deterioration of fan interest and support that will eventually allow Paul to pick up and move this team to Seattle? I've quit watching the team and now there are many other long time fans that have as well. I have no interest watching the team do the same thing year after year. Good enough to make the playoffs and enough to be bounced out in the first round.

    Neil Olshey if you dissect what he has done is terrible. I don't know how you can be as bad as he has been and keep your job unless it's a specific model that he and Paul have put together and are being very disciplined in sticking to it. He has been incompetent in every since of the job description. Even as a talent evaluator he is way overrstated in this forum. You all way, WAY over hype Zach Collins and I am not seeing the same thing you all are seeing in the kid.

    In the end, I've never seen anyone waste away more resources than Neil. He has shown very little creativity when working drafts, putting together deals, working free agency etc. He doesn't buy into this town. Tell me, how can he sell this landscape when he doesn't buy into it himself? He has more excuses for not doing something. To me...I don't think he is competent enough. Either that or it's what I said above. He is working under a very strict and disciplined model put together by he and the owner.
     
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  2. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Then he should've targeted who was available, like Hernangomez. Layman and two 2md round picks is equivalent to Johnny O'Bryant and two 2nd round picks. That's what Hernangomez got traded for. And we wouldn't have been in the luxury tax with that deal, so yes, he couldve done something else. He just wants you to believe he couldnt.
     
  3. Shaboid

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    "Bones Jones" aka GM of the Cavs.

    When all those trades came out I was at work getting notifications like, "Damn, how many teams are we gonna get involved here Bones?"
     
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  4. OneLifeToLive

    OneLifeToLive Well-Known Member

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    It was 25 years in that the owner and team decided that the Memorial Coliseum was out of date and it was time to upgrade. Were hitting that mark with the Moda Center. At what point does he get that itch that he needs a new venue and an upgrade? And will it be here or will it be built elsewhere?
     
  5. LayneStaley

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    Vegas needs a Basketball team to pair with the Golden Knights and Raiders, free agents would no longer be a problem there:)
     
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    Sarni Well-Known Member

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    We would need to not face either Rockets or Warriors to reach WCF. It's doable but not likely.
     
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    LayneStaley Well-Known Member

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    I don’t wanna get bounced by the warriors again, I doubt Harden/cp3 will be better but at least it will be different.
     
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    I don’t think Neil has a good eye for talent, in 2016 before the horrible signings Parsons and Howard were the main targets! Imagine if we had landed both of those guys, lol.
     
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  9. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Hah! I was half asleep when I first read through them and I legitimately thought I was dreaming.
     
  10. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Collins is not overhyped and since you admitted you don't watch anymore, I'm not sure your player evaluations hold much weight.
     
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    This isn't remotely close to the same thing that happened in Seattle. The NBA wouldn't let this team move. It's not even a discussion.
     
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    That trade would NOT have gotten us under the luxury tax so I don't know what you are saying. Unless you mean in addition to the Vonleh trade nut that wasn't very clear.

    Your minutes breakdown with Hernangomez was atrocious too. It would never play out like that.
     
  13. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    After the Vonleh trade it would keep us below.

    And yeah I forgot about Napier. In that case I'd just bench Turner.
     
  14. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Look at his per 36 stats. He wasn't playing because they have two very good centers in Kanter and KOQ there. Nurkic would've possibly not seen more than 10mpg there. Hell, Nurk wasn't playing when we got him.
     
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    Posts like this piss me off. It's one thing to want a different direction or to question moves/non moves but to say he is incompetent in every "since" of the job description is laughable. He has had success here, more than any GM since Trader Bob. This is the first year the Wolves will have made the playoffs since 2004. I just don't get how this team is in the playoff picture in a loaded conference when people like you say he literally has done nothing right.

    Get a grip people.
     
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    I'm referring to your big rotation. It's so bad that it kind if refutes anything good you say.
     
  17. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    How the fuck is it bad?
     
  18. calvin natt

    calvin natt Confeve

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    i voted to keep.
     
  19. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    We're a .500 team, with a loaded backcourt of Dame and CJ who he's had since they were very young in 2013. How is he not failing?
     
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  20. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    I'd probably argue that Davis playing PF (which Stotts doesn't have him do) and Aminu playing SF (even less likely than Davis at PF) make it questionable at best.
     

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