Pot Vote: Legalizing Marijuana Could Be On 2010 Ballot

...I don't know, but "I tend to take WebMD to be a serious source for medical information."

 

Sweet...that wacky Paga G thread lead me to OT...which I avoid...and this thread...I usually enjoy these OT types of arguments in person so I can physically "persuade" people when I get too pissed off... anyways...LEGALIZE IT!

 

Straight to the point. Good lad.

 

I can't really answer a hypothetical, because the amount of control on a society one would have to control the manufacture of alcohol isn't conceivable to me. If one needed some magic pixie dust to make beer, wine or hard liquor alcoholic, I'd like to see that magic pixie dust controlled. I drink because I really love the taste of beer, wine and especially bourbon. If they made great booze non-alcoholic, I'd drink it.

I guess where I stand is that alcohol is enough if you need to mellow out or escape reality. If you have a medical issue, there are drugs that can be prescribed to you. I don't think smoking pot is something that should be ecouraged and increased access to marijuana would almost certainly lead to increased use, both in terms of numbers of people and the amount each person smokes.

I find it interesting too, because this is one area where my policy ideas and my personal philosophy are at odds.

 

Thank you for your response with personal evidence. I'll choose not to offer specifics, but I assure you that I could offer the same number of anecdotal evidence of people who have lost their jobs, their families, their freedom and even their lives because they were enslaved by marijuana.

You seem to wish to label me some tightass who knows nothing about drugs and paints a broad brush on users. I might have a view contrary to many in here, but I assure you I've seen more than my share of drug use. I'll continue to post that we're going to have to agree to disagree.

 

Amazingly, I've never known, met, or heard about anyone, anywhere, ever, who lost their jobs, their families, their freedom and even their lives because they were enslaved by marijuana.

Not even a really bad made-up story about a fictional person.

This is the first statement I've ever encountered making such obviously untrue nonsensical assertions.

Your assurance is of no value to support such silliness.

I should add I have lost a Father-in-law and 3 very close life-long friends long before their time to the devastating effects of alcohol. Another friend is pretty far down that road to an agonizing death through alcoholism.

 

Thank you for your response. I'll credit you for logical consistency in all of your posts.

 

Getting you're rocks off daily helps prevent Prostate cancer. I think there should be government aid involved.

 

Can you guys reduce the size of quotes for use in sigs...there are too many I need to have and my sig is getting too long, lol

 

We'll send Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi right over.

 

maxie P, normally your not-so-popular opinions come with compelling arguments, but you seem to be out-of-touch with reality and way off-base with this one...I wonder why...would your stance be the same if cannabis was alcohol and alcohol was cannabis?!?!?!

 

Like I said, we're going to have to agree to disagree. I don't know how I'm "out of touch with reality" or "way off base". Perhaps you could explain it to me.

I think the following things:

1. Legalization would result in lower prices and higher quantity, meaning more people would likely use marijuana. The fewer people using drugs, the better for society.

2. Drug use begets harder drug use. Marijuana has always been an intro drug to other more serious ones.

3. We have the ability to control the manufacture of marijuana we don't have with alcohol. The prohibition argument isn't the same.

4. Legalization of marijuana means it would be easier for kids to get their hands on.

5. Long term mental and physical effects are harmful to users.

6. More drug use has other impacts on society: less productivity, higher crime, increased accidents due to impairment, etc.

As for what I would do if cannibis were easy to manufacture from household ingredients, was legal and had controlled distributed in stores; and alcohol required special plants to manufacture, was illegal and whose distribution resulted in jail time? I'd probably smoke and be against the legalization of alcohol.

 

Hm, I'm definitely going to have to agree to disagree. All of your points are complete rubbish, to be honest with you, man.

 

Okay. Go to a grocery store and buy seeds.

I can go to Albertson's and buy everything I need to make beer, wine or hard alcohol. That's what I'm talking about, not the ability to grow a plant.

 

Because one is legally done in the open and one is illegally done. BTW, your reference point of Portland, OR is not really representative of how easy it is to score pot. Try buying seeds in Montana or Kansas.

Is it really your argument that it's just as easy to buy marijuana seeds/plants as it is to go to your local grocery store?