Power Forward of the Future

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  1. AFully22

    AFully22 Well-Known Member

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    I agree with most of this. It's a delicate time frame NO is working with and balance will be key. I do disagree that Harkless and Williams are similar players when it comes to spacing. Harkless is a career 31% 3 pt shooter and Williams is a career 35% 3 pt shooter. Williams has three straight years of shooting 35% or over and in that span shot 40% one of those years. In comparison that is better then Dame has shot from three in all three of those years. Obviously 3 pt shooting isn't the only factor when considering spacing but it's a major part of it.

    I think I've gave my 2 cents. I'll quit before people start thinking I have a raging clue for Marvin Williams.
     
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    I was advocating for Williams quite a bit in the off-season, so I wouldn't worry about focusing too much on a player!

    Just to clarify: I wasn't saying that Harkless should be considered as reliable a shooter as Williams, just that Williams' shooting should be kept in perspective a bit. Last year's performance was a-ways over his established level and, this year, he's actually a bit behind Harkless. To be fair, Harkless' performance this year is well above his established level (and used to be even higher before a hellacious slump in January) so it could be a fluke year for him. On the other other hand, Harkless is a lot younger, so there is the chance that he's simply improving.

    That said, I trust Williams as a shooter more, but I'm a little cooler on him now that his gains of last year don't appear to have been consolidated. But he's still a solid shooter, solid defender and solid rebounder and fits very nicely into a lot of different lineup types.
     
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    Out of all those 'highlights', there was only one clip that impressed me (the dibble drive from the left wing into the paint).
    He's a terrible rebounder & gets blocked by guys 6-8 inches shorter than him.
     
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    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    Looks far from NBA ready... Which is something that I think will be a big factor in determining who we draft.

    Hartenstein looks more NBA ready, plus he was born in Eugene so we wouldn't have to worry about Stoudamires law.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Kyle O'Quinn. 27 next month. 6'10", 250, 20 PER this year, still only getting 15mpg.
     
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    I like that idea. And was reportedly available at the deadline (not for cheap though).
     
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    Here's what we need, a PF that...
    Can Shoot
    Can Rebound
    Can defend the paint
    Can Guard players out on the perimeter
    Doesn't make much.

    Tough/Impossible to get everything, but the last is pretty important because of our salary situation. That's why there's a lot of interest in rookies.
     
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    Not enamored with Bam. Think he is projected to go too high.

    Has a Vonleh body but with less agility, reach and skill.
    Perhaps has a better motor than Noah, but he wont be able to rely on out-muscling opponents in the NBA.
     
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    Why not? I have a feeling his combine strength numbers are going to be insane. He reminds me of a young Ben Wallace. Then again, PF is such a tough position to translate to the NBA. A lot of people, myself included, thought Thomas Robinson was going to be a beast.
     
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    Shades of ZBO.
     
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    Is that a right-handed Sam Perkins?
     
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    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    When he puts on more muscle I could see him dominating the glass like Dwight Howard light. Could very well be the best big in the draft, and I think he should end up being a top 5 pick.
     
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    I just mean - he seems to rely on out-muscling in college, hasn't really shown too much skill IMO.
    Everyone in the NBA is strong and athletic - so I don't think his advantage in college will transfer as well as a skilled player.

    Could be worth a flyer in second half of first round - but I see him as Biyombo 2.0 more so than Howard-Lite.
     
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    Robert. Williams. Trade up if need be.
     
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    So basically you want Kevin-Garnett-on-a-rookie -contract. Seems reasonable.
     
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    What I want, and what the team needs. So, yeah, reality is going to be a compromise - but it can't be a compromise on the last point, the contract must be small.

    For example, Manimal, though I don't like him, would be better than anyone we have now. But, he's making $15 mil per year, and we can't afford to add a guy like that.
     
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    "All" those highlights? That's just one game.
    And hey, you KNOW he's the kind of player Olshey likes. Think of him as Meyers with a brain.
    Re: bounds - he's in double figures per 40. Not great, admittedly, but probably better than Brook Lopez.
    If you want a real highlights package, where he's playing people his age:
     
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    I want to think he will be "really good" but I keep having TRob nightmares
     
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