Prediction: Dame will win MVP of the NBA this year

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  1. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    I've decided to use my prediction powers for good.
     
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    I know this is your thing but it's kind of nuts to think that Dame - Ant - Whoever - Grant - Nurk doesn't make the playoffs.
     
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    Jokic was MVP this season when Denver was 6th seed and lost 1-4 in the 1st round
     
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    Especially if Dame puts up MVP numbers alongside those guys. Having said that I hope he doesn't. I want to see a well-balanced box score, with about 6 players averaging around 15 to 20 points.
     
  10. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    This is where I am as well. If Dame is putting up godly numbers, that means the rest of the team isn't carrying any weight.

    Billups-ball is built around passing and moving the ball quickly.

    Stotts-ball was pound the rock until the shot clock was low and either jack up a shot or pass it to some other poor schmuck who has to jack up a shot.

    If Dame buys into Billups-ball, we should have a quick moving offense and I'd like to see him around 32 mpg on super efficient scoring.
     
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    you just described a lottery team in the West

    Phoenix - Booker 26.8
    Memphis - Morant 27.4
    Warriors - Curry 25.5
    Dallas - Doncic 28.4
    Utah - Mitchell 25.9
    Denver - Jokic 27.1
    Minny - KAT 24.6
    LAC - George 24.3

    the Eastern Conference is the same way. About the only exception is Miami with Butler averaging 21.4, but they may have been the deepest team in the league. Teams use their best players to maximum advantage

    Portland won't be the best version of what they can be by taking a chunk of Dame's opportunities and giving them to Grant and Hart
     
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    You are not swaying me. I am not saying it will happen, just that I would like it to. A team with Dame and Ant averaging 20, while Nurk, Grant, Hart, and Little averaging 15, and 3 other bench players averaging 6 ppg, would lead the league in scoring. (Based on last years stats) Is it possible? Probably not.
    But if it did would they be a lottery team? No way if they played decent defense. That does not prevent Dame from going off when they need him to, just that they wouldn't be relying on him every game in order to win.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    What's funny is that offense has never been the problem for this team. Defense has been our major Achilles heel.

    2020-2021 (Dame's last healthy-ish season)
    Dame 28.8 ppg
    CJ 23 ppg
    Norm 17 ppg
    Melo 13.4 ppg
    Kanter 11.2 ppg
    Nurk 11.5 ppg
    Roco 8.5 ppg
    Simons 7.8 ppg

    We actually had a lot of scoring on that team. We were just dog shit at defending anyone...... and sadly none of those guys stepped up in the playoffs.

    Dame 34.3 ppg
    CJ 20.7 ppg
    Norm 17 ppg
    Nurk 13 ppg
    Melo 12 ppg
    Roco 9.3 ppg
    Simons 6.5 ppg
    Kanter 2.0 ppg
     
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    sorry...I think you're well off base, assuming Dame returns to form

    take the previous 2 healthy years for Dame as an example and look at TS%:

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    other than the exceptions of two highly efficient bigs, Whiteside and Kanter, Dame is the best offensive option Portland has. He is the most efficient and he is the one Blazer who can force an opposing to defense to flex and adjust. CJ never did that and it's very unlikely Ant is ready to do that either

    in those two seasons, Dame averaged 20 shots a game and he averaged about 1.46 points/shot. To average 20 points, his shots would have to drop from 20/game to 13.7/game....more than 6 shots a game, which is an absurd drop. Worse is it's Portland unilaterally doing exactly what other teams try to do and that's take the ball out of Dame's hands and take shots away from him. All for what? Some theory for what makes watchable basketball? What you're proposing might make sense when Dame slows down at 35 or 36 or 37. It makes no sense next season

    shots/game:

    Luca Doncic 22
    Lebron James 22
    Devin Booker 21
    Ja Morant 21
    Jayson Tatum 21
    Donovan Mitchell 21
    Paul George 21
    Kyrie Irving 21
    Kevin Durant 20
    Demar Derozan 20
    Stephen Curry 20
    Trae Young 20
    Joel Embiid 20
    Giannis 19
    CJ McCollum 19
    SGA 19
    De'Aaron Fox 19
    Jaylen Brown 18
    Nikola Jokic 18
    Zach LaVine 18
    Klay Thompson 18
    Pascal Siakam 18
    Julius Randle 17
    Darius Garland 17
    RJ Barrett 17
    Fred VaVleet 17

    Damian Lillard 14....LOL
     
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    Wade Garrett Exactly right.

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    These posted stats mean little.
    Show me a stat that shows "healthy", because that is what Damian will be this year.
    Show me THAT stat, otherwise..........
     
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    I’m feeling it too!
    Go Dame. Go Blazers.
     
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    you could probably bet on this early and actually make a bundle when he does win MVP
     
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    calvin natt Confeve

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    Giannis
    Steph
    Luka
    Tatum
    Lebron
    Embiid
    Jokic
    Trae

    Probably a few more but those guys have legit chances.
     
  19. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    I buy any of those but Trae.
     
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    I added because I think the Hawks will be pretty good with Dejuante Murray and Trae will be top 5 in points and Assists again
     

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