Prepare for a slow and agonizing death

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  1. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    I read it. It's the tired old "they're keeping secrets from us, we're all going to die!" schtick.

    Our nuclear reactors are safe. Why should the government play chicken little, when the sky really isn't falling.

    If there was a wide spread cover up, YOU wouldn't know it. Duh.
     
  2. jlprk

    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    You avoid the obvious question--Why would the U.S. Government cover up, if there's nothing to cover up?
     
  3. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    They didn't cover anything up.

    Our reactors are just fine.

    We use the same parts, oh my god! But our reactors weren't hit by a gigantic tsunami.
     
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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    This is a circular process. Obviously, you didn't read the link.

    Re-read my "You didn't read it" post.
     
  5. Denny Crane

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    I really did read it when it was first posted.

    There were THOUSANDS of emails, which is an indication that all those people believed they were doing the right thing. For good reason. We don't need a bunch of MARIS types scared of their own shadow when there's nothing to be afraid of.

    Japan is about to turn on the rest of their reactors. Go figure.

    Circular. Go re-read my post. Don't. Be. A. Fool.
     
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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    There is much more in the article than Maris' summary. Go to and read the link itself. Then answer why the massive coverup.

    Other than what you said, "They massively covered up because they believed they were doing the right thing."
     
  7. MARIS61

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    LOL. You're so fucking terrified you've got fingers in your ears saying NANANANANA...

    Trust Big Brother says Denny Crane! The Nanny State will keep you safe! Don't you worry your pretty little head. Obama is lying to you for your own good!
     
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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    Denny thinks these American servicemen and women are lying leeches.

    [video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSz1wGc1PcU&feature=player_embedded#t=20[/video]
     
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    Big government has nothing to do with it. You are the one with your fingers in your ears.

    It is VERY dangerous to be at the exact spot in Fukushima where the radiation is. No doubt. The danger at our distance is purely psychological, and you are pure living proof.
     
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    More rigorous testing finds a few more incidences of cancer.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...yroid-cancer-japan-disaster-nuclear-radiation

    Gerry Thomas, professor of molecular pathology at Imperial College, London University, blames growing anxiety among Fukushima residents on "pseudo-scientists who can shout louder than real scientists".

    "The biggest effect will be psychological – just as it was post-Chernobyl," said Thomas, who insists the rising number of cases is due to comprehensive screening, not radiation. "I still stick with what I have always said: there will not be a single death due to the radiological consequences of this accident."

    (Keep shouting MARIS)
     
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    It's not safe to swim in the ocean!

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    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/22/opinion/fear-vs-radiation-the-mismatch.html?_r=1&

    Fear vs. Radiation: The Mismatch

    CAMBRIDGE, Massachusetts — It has been more than two and a half years since the Fukushima nuclear disaster began to unfold, and still the world watches events closely, fearfully. The drumbeat of danger seems never ending: Earlier this month, to take just one example, international news reports spread word that six workers at the plant had been accidentally doused with radioactive water.

    Yet leading health scientists say the radiation from Fukushima has been relatively harmless, which is similar to results found after studying the health effects of Chernobyl. With all that evidence, why does our fear of all things nuclear persist? And what peril does that fear itself pose for society?

    Our anxiety about nuclear radiation is rooted in our understandable fear of the terrible power of nuclear weapons. But in the 68 years since those weapons were first used in anger, we have learned, from the survivors of Hiroshima and Nagasaki themselves, that ionizing radiation — the type created by a nuclear reaction — is not nearly the powerful carcinogen or genetic mutagen that we thought it was.

    Beginning shortly after World War II, epidemiologists and radiation biologists began tracking atomic bomb survivors. Researchers have followed roughly 112,600 Japanese: 86,611 who had been within 10 kilometers of the center of the explosions, and 26,000 who were not exposed.

    The most current analysis estimates that, out of 10,929 people in the exposed population who have died of cancer, only 527 of those deaths were caused by radiation from the atomic bombs. For the entire population exposed, in many cases to extremely high levels of radiation, that’s an excess cancer mortality rate of about two-thirds of 1 percent.

    These studies have also found that, more than two generations later, there have been no multigenerational genetic effects on humans, Godzilla and the mutant giant ants in the 1954 film “Them!” notwithstanding. Fetal exposure in utero produced horrible birth defects, but no permanent genetic damage.

    Perhaps most importantly, research on the bomb survivors has found that at lower doses, below 100 millisieverts, radiation causes no detectable elevations in normal rates of illness and disease. (Among several measures of radiation exposure, sieverts reflect the biological effects of radiation.) The vast majority of the doses received by people living near Fukushima or Chernobyl were well below this 100 millisievert threshold.

    The robust evidence that ionizing radiation is a relatively low health risk dramatically contradicts common fears.

    But nuclear accidents have provided strong evidence that those fears have dramatic health consequences of their own. The World Health Organization’s 20-year review of the Chernobyl disaster found that its psychological impacts did more health damage than radiation exposure did, and a principle cause of the population’s debilitating stress was “an exaggerated sense of the dangers to health of exposure to radiation.”

    EDIT: The author of this article teaches courses about risk communications at Harvard and blogs at HuffPost (he's a lefty).

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-ropeik/
     
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    I've said since the 70's that worrying about cancer causes cancer.

    Go Blazers
     
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    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    I didn't know your name was Philip J. Frye...

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    You guys laughed at me but I knew bad things were going to happen with all that radiation being dumped everywhere.

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    Massive press censorship, government health-disinformation, forced radiation exposure, fake radiation monitors, unconscionable crimes against their citizens, and cover-up going on in Japan.

    Official in Fukushima: “Please Please HELP US!” — Hot particles of melted fuel are inhaled by children everyday — We are forced to have it in our bodies — “Please let all people in the world know the life we are living”.
    Excerpts from Oyama Koichi of the Minamisoma City Council, May 13, 2014 — Translation by Dissensus Japan, May 25, 2014:

    I want to shout for all the people in this world: “Please Please HELP US!”
    The cause substance have been found. This is an aggregate of radionuclides which starts with Uranium [in] a nuclear reactor at more than 5000°C.
    This mixed metal contains four different substances, α・β・γ and also have the possibility to radiate neutron ray.
    No creature on earth never knew this substance.
    We are forced to have those strong substances inside our body without knowing where it exactly stays.
    To say that “Cesium has got the same system as potassium and it will be discharged from the body” is just a lie! [...]
    We are all manipulated by the words “radiation” and “radiation doze” without knowing the real identity of radiation source. We are not told the real facts of being irradiated [...]
    They only compare radiation doze and natural potassium contained in bananas and manipulated people as if it was a scientific study. I really want the scholars patronized by the government to be punished by the rancorous of all children on this earth. [...]
    The informations say that hot particles were diffused and flied in all directions in Japan. The particles from hell is flying in the air and people don’t protect themselves anymore three years after the nuclear accident and children are aspirating those horrible particles everyday!!!
    PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE HELP US! Please let all people in the world to know the life we are living since the accident, everyday and today.

    http://enenews.com/official-in-fuku...bodies-please-let-all-people-in-the-world-kno
     

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