Prepare for a slow and agonizing death

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  1. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    What is it that is 'fun' about that situation?

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  2. BrianFromWA

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    plenty.

    1) That the "occupy" movement now includes Japanese folks
    2) That it seems to include disbanding nuclear power
    3) That because it's a bunch of women, it's different somehow
    4) That by doing it near the government offices, they seem to get a little bit better than our OWS folks.
     
  3. MARIS61

    MARIS61 Real American

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    So the whole "radiation is killing human fetuses" thing was of no interest to you, a pro-lifer?

    You give a whole new meaning to the word "fun".
     
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    No, I saw that "radiation can't have killed many fetuses, since it went down from the Jan and Feb rates." And I'll happily shut down substandard power plants to reverse Roe v. Wade. But that's not my decision.

    And yes, I realize that you generally don't understand my definitions. :cheers:
     
  5. jlprk

    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    Just wanted to reassure everyone that everything's still fine. A year later, they haven't invented equipment to allow them to see inside 3 of the 4 bad reactors. It will take NASA-like inventions.

    Good news--This week they fearfully passed a camera down into the 4th reactor, the easiest one. The endoscope was destroyed by heat and radiation in 14 hours. It found that they were way short in their computer simulation estimate of how much radioactive steam is in there. Anyone who enters the chamber will die, even wearing protection. They say this condition will remain for decades (read: centuries).

    But the solution is simple. Just don't walk in there. If the buildings ever leak or fall apart over the generations, just keep your distance. Well, I just wanted to do my bit to reassure the public that there's nothing to worry about, and how much we need a lot of new reactors to be built.

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap...khL1UQ?docId=dff2ed1434ab430c86596f672dab8414

    Bad news at the end of the article. Japan shut down all its reactors, just like Germany. Idiots.
     
  6. MARIS61

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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    Each time I reread my article, it's like watching The Wizard of Oz--I get a new angle on it. Now I notice how far off the estimate was which produced the happy December prognosis that Reactor #2 is "stable," whatever that means.

    The estimate, from a computer simulation since direct measurement would kill people, was that 10 meters deep of hot radioactive water lie inside, slowly seeping through floor cracks into the underground water table, circulating into human water sources like wells and streams.

    This is good, because the more water, the less explosive radioactive steam, pushing outward and eating away at the roof and walls. Water turns into steam and will take decades to cool.

    But the endoscope (this is the only reactor with a slot for it, so the other reactors will have to continue using computer simulations) showed only 6% as much water (60 centimeters depth, not 10 meters). So I just now noticed that the computer sim estimate was 94% off, making all their previous conclusions unreliable. I guess they can retract the simulation's conclusion, that the reactor is "stable."
     
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  9. jlprk

    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    You guys are drowning me in a tsunami of reading. Everyone read MY article first. It's really quite surprising. The official opinion/rating has gone downhill since the December optimism about "stability."
     
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    Plume-gate: Secret documents prove global cover-up of continued Fukushima radiation pollution
    Where's Brian?! I want to hear the official spin :sigh:
     
  11. jlprk

    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    Brian is too little overseas and too much underseas. When he wants to post, the Captain won't surface and radio the satellite. Maybe a mutiny is in order?

    I noted earlier in the thread that Germany had decided to close all nuclear energy plants. They have scheduled the shutdowns over the next few years. Since then, Switzerland has done the same. Japan has not only scheduled it--local decisions have already shut down all its plants, reflecting local will. The U.S. nuclear lobby is reduced to running articles like this, extolling small former Communist countries for keeping theirs open.

    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/...ned/?source=hp_dl2_news_nuclear_plant20120510
     
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    ...here is a very fascinating article from excerpts of the book titled "A Primer in the Art of Deception" by Paul Zimmerman:

    CONTINUED --> http://femalefaust.blogspot.com/2012/05/this-pdf-on-radiation-and-nuclear.html
     
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    Those piers will get you every time. It's just a matter of time. And it's slow and agonizing.
     
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    Sure. Let 'em sit around in the dark. At least they don't need to run heaters to stay warm this time of year.
     
  17. MARIS61

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    How did the Japanese survive for tens of thousands of years without nuclear reactors to provide their electricity?

    It's just one of those mysteries that baffles the great minds of science.
     
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    Sure, people can survive without power. Like I said, they sit around in the dark. Not to mention no computers, no refrigerators, much smaller sustainable population, short life expectancy, and so on.

    Japan now has a population about 1/2 the US living in an area the size of California.
     
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    Strawman argument as usual. The issue isn't power, it's the needlessness of risking nuclear fallout in order to obtain power that is easily accessible through less dangerous and less costly means.

    All those things are available in countries without nuclear power.
     

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