Presidential candidates and religion

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  1. ucatchtrout

    ucatchtrout Well-Known Member

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    True.

    However there are churches who tell their members what to do and who to vote for.

    I wouldn't want someone who was under that kind of control by their church to have their finger on the nuclear trigger.

    Did you see that guy who cast the witches spells out of Palin? He could easily become a 21st century Rasputin.
     
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    I'd prefer to have an athiest in office, but since that won't happen any time soon I'll go for someone who won't make drastic policy changes based on made up reasons. It's kind of silly, actually.

    Luckily, I don't think this will have a huge effect on America. The biggest cause I could see coming to light is abortion and that, while justified by some religious support, seems primarily as a morality issue, which I'm fine with.
     
  3. Denny Crane

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    As religious as W claims to be, Jimmy Carter was way more so. Nobody feared his finger on the nuclear trigger.

    In all the times you've heard her speak, interviewed, etc., has she sounded like a religious zealot bible thumper type?

    From what I've seen of her record as Governor, she's pushed nothing at all that could be considered any breach of separation of church and state.
     
  4. ucatchtrout

    ucatchtrout Well-Known Member

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    oh yeah. look at the videos of her in church. and those are tame compared to some of the other ones on youtube.
     
  5. Denny Crane

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    Look at videos of Obama's church. I don't hold that against him, though a major bunch of hooey's been made over it.
     
  6. Jack RamsaysPants

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    When I was a Lad I had the pleasure of seeing Buck Williams present his testimonial at a church. Outside of thet moment I never knew nor cared that he was a religious man. With that said I neither gained nor lost respect for him.
     
  7. ucatchtrout

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    I knew somebody was going to mention that..... but he has distanced himself from those guys, and never got up on stage and spewed their rhetoric. he even said that his pastor went way too far with things.

    those palin videos are only 2 months old.
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    I would disagree that a "big deal" was made about Lieberman being a Jew. It was brought up in a "look at how enlightened we've become" identity politics sort of way.
     
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    So what? I don't care if Obama distanced himself or not. In fact, I think it was a bad thing to throw his Pastor under the bus like he did. As I see it, Minstrel and I might be associated here on this site with polar opposite views, but we're still friends; it doesn't make me a believer in his politics.

    And I don't care what religion people are or what they do in their church (aside from illegally telling people who to vote for). It's what they do and say in the TV interviews, from the podium in the public square, etc.

    Like I said, Carter was the most religious president in my lifetime, yet that had nothing to do with policy.
     
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    Lieberman being a Jew was a big deal to Jewish people.
     
  11. ucatchtrout

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    :) I understand.

    Religious groups that might be construed as cults make me nervous.
     
  12. Jack RamsaysPants

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    All religious groups could be construed as cults. It just depends on how far from the accepted norm they stray as to how vilified they are.
     
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    I was commenting on the press coverage of his religion and its role in his policy-making, not individuals or groups of people. I understand that Kennedy's religion was a big deal for many people back in 1960; I didn't see the same kind of concern covered in the press with Lieberman.
     
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    pastor muthee is a long ways from billy grahm
     
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    Exactly my point.

    The 1st definition of the term "cult"

    1. a particular system of religious worship, esp. with reference to its rites and ceremonies.
     
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    Not polar opposite. We have a lot of similar views on social issues. I'm a big believer in JS Mills' Harm Principle. I'd guess you are, too.
     

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