Pretty serious implications levied against NBA in regards to Jeremy Lin

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  1. dviss1

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    If you're driving the lane with your dribble and you stopped on two feet have you established your pivot foot yet?

    You have not.

    Once you pivot you have taken a step and establish your pivot foot.
     
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    There's one travel they specifically did not call ever. It happens usually after a jab step. When the player rips through they switch pivot feet. They lift their pivot foot rips through and then drive by taking that first step with their pivot foot. Brandon Roy did it all the time. It's Al Jefferson's go to move in the post.
     
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    But in this case, since Lin only had one foot on the ground, he had, by rule, already taken a step the moment he touched the ball, no?
     
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    Bingo. He then may not lift that foot unless he started a dribble before it is lifted or he is ready to shoot or pass.
     
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    Exactly. As I said, the notion that someone can already have taken a step without even having moved is insane. But who am I to question the almighty rule-creators.
     
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    Utah really needed that game tonight. With Houstons easy schedule and the fact that the Jazz still play the Mavericks once doesn't bode well for them. Obviously they HAVE to win the game vs the Mavs, but even then it might be too little too late. They are the team who has to play in LA for Kobes final NBA game ever.... Yikes.
     
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    But he did take a step to establish his pivot foot. I'm not sure why your not getting that.
     
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    FOB stands for "Fresh off the boat". It literally applies to all immigrants, regardless of color.
     
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    Please be patient with me; I'm seriously trying to understand here.

    OK, his left foot was down and his right foot in the air when he got the ball. Was his left foot established as his pivot foot at that moment? Or was his pivot foot established after his right foot came down to the floor?
     
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    I know what it stands for. It's still a racial slur. I still also understand it's considered okay for the same immigrants to say it each other (for the same reason it's ok for me to use the word nigga). I didn't know El Presidente was Asian.
     
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    I'm sorry. I'll be patient. Traveling literally is the hardest call to make in basketball.

    The step is a step regardless of whether or not he has the ball right?

    That step, now that he has possession of the ball, counts as a step toward a traveling violation if he lifts it to do anything other than shoot or pass.
     
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    But my question is regarding the establishment of the pivot foot. If I understood correctly, when he received the ball, with his left foot on the ground, and his right foot in the air, his left foot was immediately established as his pivot foot, counting as his first step.

    Then, when he lifted his left foot after his right foot came down, that counted as his second step pre-dribble, which should have resulted in the travel call at that moment, yes?

    Do I have all that correct? That his pivot foot is established the instant he received the ball because only one foot is touching the floor at that instant?
     
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    "EL PRESIDENTE isn't Asian, he's hot"

    - @KingAlbertoJrSpeed
     
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    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    I had no idea, LOL.
     
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    I disagree that this double standard should be acceptable.

    But I accept I am in the minority.

    :cheers:
     
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    How is it a racial slur? It's applied to all immigrants. It's definitely a hateful slur, and it's classist, but it's not necessarily racial.
     
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    Yes. It counts as a step because you can only take 1 step after it is established. Your first step is always the establishment of the pivot foot. Even if you're running full speed and doing a 2 step fundamental layup.

    You have it all correct except the travel call would not have happened the moment he lifted his pivot foot while putting his right foot down. The travel happens when he decides to dribble after his pivot foot is lifted. If he had chosen to shoot or pass it would have been legal.
     
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    Jesus dude why are you so technical?
    That word is certainly not said about any white people. And white people come from more than just America. They're not calling people from Britain fob.
     
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    I don't agree that it is a double standard even though technically it kinda is. I can call my friend nigga if I want to without being questioned as to why I get to say it and they don't. I personally believe that you can use that word in kindness, only if it's been used against you in hate.

    My question to them would be why they'd want to say it. It's not necessary to relate.
     
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