The game was intense...Vince had 25 and a crazy fade away 3 to put the raps up by 3 at the end...skip, marshell, palacio, and rose played well...but our bigs got shut down, abused, and they were cold as ice, 4pts for CB4 & 0 for Woods...randalph was beast 30+ pts and ratliff blocked bosh's monster jam that would have brought the house down...vince bailed us out in the end...nice game
I think it was extremely smart decision by Sam Mitchell not to call a timeout on the possesion where Vince Knock down the three. Not calling the timeout really made the blazers pay for the decision to use the small backcourt so much in the 4th. If Sam Mitchell would have called the time out then the Blazers could have went with an defense for offense subsitution and bring Patterson in the game for Van Exel. And Patterson had really been pyshical with Carter all game when he was in there, so Vince definately wouldnt have gotten the same look he can get against the smaller Van Exel. So Sam Mitchell definately gets alot of credit for creating that situation imo.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting VinKanaddy:</div><div class="quote_post">Vince had no choice but to shoot that three and he knew he could make it. Game clock was ticking down and the shot clock was almost down to 2 seconds when he released the shot. Vince has been clutch for the past three games, so if I were Rafer Alston or Sam Mitchell I'd have made the same choice to put the ball in Carter's hands.</div>There was actually more than 5 seconds left when he released the ball so there was more than enough time to take it to the hoop. There's no doubt that he can take NVE so he should've went right at him instead of settling for a fade-away three-pointer. You should never do a fade-away three pointer unless you have absolutely no other option. But Carter did have the hot hand, so if anyone were to do that shot, it's best that it was him. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">True, the Jazz and the Kings have strength advantage over the Raptors front court with Jazz having Mehmet Okur and Carlos Boozer and the Kings with Chris Webber and Brad Miller, but I believe Bosh and Woods can get it done against them as they have done against Yao Ming and the 2-Wallaces. And don't forget, if one of them struggles, we still have Aroujo to come off the bench and provide some physical presence. </div>It's not really the front court that concern me about these two teams, it's mainly because we're playing them at their home court. The Kings are almost impossible to beat at Sac-town and the Jazz are unbelievable so far this season. I think these next two games are the real test to see how legit our team really is.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting dunksworth:</div><div class="quote_post">There was actually more than 5 seconds left when he released the ball so there was more than enough time to take it to the hoop. There's no doubt that he can take NVE so he should've went right at him instead of settling for a fade-away three-pointer. You should never do a fade-away three pointer unless you have absolutely no other option. But Carter did have the hot hand, so if anyone were to do that shot, it's best that it was him.</div> 4.7 seconds in the game clock but the shot clock was going less than 2 seconds. I'm not so sure if Carter could've taken Van Exel off the dribble because he's quicker than Carter and Carter had the height advantage, so it was a right decision for him to take the jumper. It did almost made my heart sink to the floor when he faded away though... I thought he was gonna miss it.
I think my friend summed it up best when he said "Vince is the most talented dumb player in the league". He got lucky on the blocking call (and 1) because that was clearly a charge. They called the charge the next time he came down. Then he has enough time to drive to the basket and draw a foul but he takes the easy way out with a 3. IMO it was horrible decision making on Vince's part but it got us the win. Can we really keep on relying him to take jump shots to secure victories? At some point in his career he has to become smarter and draw fouls in those situations. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting VinKanaddy:</div><div class="quote_post">4.7 seconds in the game clock but the shot clock was going less than 2 seconds. I'm not so sure if Carter could've taken Van Exel off the dribble because he's quicker than Carter and Carter had the height advantage, so it was a right decision for him to take the jumper. It did almost made my heart sink to the floor when he faded away though... I thought he was gonna miss it.</div>Actually it was 7.6 seconds left in the game when Vince had the ball, and there were 6 seconds on the shot clock. Plenty of time to drive to the hoop IMO. Lucky win for the Raptors, but we'll take the wins anyway they can come.
Great game, Theo was manning the paint against Bosh, he dunked on him once [last year], but Theo pulled out his pateneted two handed block. Vince hit the three at the end, and while he was dribbling I told my brother, he's going to step back and shoot the three, and then lo and behold he does just that. Not the greatest decision making to take a three rather than get to the line, but Vince is one lucky guy. Like I predicted again, Zach dominated the Raptors inside, it's just bound to happen, we should just prepare for it every time we play the Blazers. I liked Bosh running the break and giving it to Marshall, that was nice, I was impressed, Rafer also had an impressive game, and it was all our backcourt + Marshall, Lammond, and Milt [since when did he learn how to dribble let alone make layups ]
[quote name='og15'] Vince hit the three at the end, and while he was dribbling I told my brother, he's going to step back and shoot the three, and then lo and behold he does just that. Not the greatest decision making to take a three rather than get to the line, but Vince is one lucky guy. QUOTE] Yes he did that, but referees have not given him much respect in the past and if he drove they all would have collided on him and NO foul.. its happened time and time again, so I'd understand why Vince would be iffy about it. He is one of the few talented ppl that can make a shot like that in those moments.. so I give him credit for that. Everyone may remember him as a dunker, but he's changed now, he's a really good shooter as well. Its not like he misses alot, he saves the raptors all the time with clutch shots. And usually late games, refs dont seem to blow the whistle at the very end of games often, so im glad Carter did what he did. He shows how good he is by NOT missing. He is no longer a dunker, he is a much more complete player now.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting VinKanaddy:</div><div class="quote_post">4.7 seconds in the game clock but the shot clock was going less than 2 seconds. I'm not so sure if Carter could've taken Van Exel off the dribble because he's quicker than Carter and Carter had the height advantage, so it was a right decision for him to take the jumper. It did almost made my heart sink to the floor when he faded away though... I thought he was gonna miss it.</div>Oh okay, I thought the game and shot clock were the same at that point.... but as someone already mentioned, he had 6 seconds when he had the ball which is more than enough time to drive. And VC had NVE's number. Even after the game, Maurice Cheeks pretty much said that he wanted to put in DMiles or Patterson but didn't have the opportunity to do so because there was no timeout called by Mitchell. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting CourtVision:</div><div class="quote_post">IMO it was horrible decision making on Vince's part but it got us the win. Can we really keep on relying him to take jump shots to secure victories? At some point in his career he has to become smarter and draw fouls in those situations.</div>Exactly.... If Carter's shot didn't go in, then Portland would've got the rebound and had sufficient time to get a shot off and possibly win the game. In that situation, we would've looked back at that shot and realized what a horrible decision that was on Carter's part.
"but Vince is one lucky guy." You call it luck. I call it skill. You should be cheering Vince. HE WON THE GAME FOR THE RAPS!!!! Vince rocked the house tonight!!
^^yea, i dont know how much of it is luck. afterall...he did MEAN for it to go in. thats like saying every jump shot taken is luck. luck is when your facing the wrong way, and a rebound goes off your head and in. not a jump shot lol.
Yea it wasn't luck. Vince always makes shots like that, purely clutch.. it's not like he's never made one before. He's even done it a couple times last season.. but then again hardly anyone watched the raptors last season to know about it.
Good for VC and your Toronto Raptors recording their first ever 3-0 start. Especially with Vince only averaging 33 minutes of play and 17.6ppg so far. I see he's taking his shots wisely since he went 10 of 16 from the field. Congrats Raps.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 30 standing ver:</div><div class="quote_post">Good for VC and your Toronto Raptors recording their first ever 3-0 start. Especially with Vince only averaging 33 minutes of play and 17.6ppg so far. I see he's taking his shots wisely since he went 10 of 16 from the field. Congrats Raps.</div> yeah fg% is what impresses me, there is something to be said about efficiency. i apologize is somebody brought this up earlier but did anybody know the Attendance: 13863? thats horrible and there was no argos playoff game this time.
