If Hagelin is part of this asinine trade, Sather and his idiot herd need to go. And I'm finished rooting for mediocre NY Ranger teams...with NO POSITIVE PLAN.....and dealing them to an Eastern Conference team. What crap!
What a horrendous deal if this happens. This already slow team would trade its fastest and quickest guy for that deal? If this deal happens, I'll be a full fledged CBJ fan until Sather is outta here. This just cant be true. Are we approaching April fools day?
Haha yup, 62 in full fledged Dubinsky-longing mode and just completely forgetting Dubi and his cool 4.2m went 23 straight games for Columbus last year with a whopping zero goals. Yeah this team could use his (at best occasional) fire and emotion but it's laughable people miss him with that kind of cap hit.
The Rangers may be better off keeping Del Zotto in the short-term because of the recent injuries to the Rangers defense. Even with keeping him in the short term, it’s more than likely that Del Zotto won’t get his next contract from the Rangers. (Daily News) I still think he gets dealt soon, or someone does. And I agree, I just do not see the Rangers re-signing him this summer. The %'s on that are VERY low IMO. Which means the smart play is to deal him before the trade DL, assuming we can still get solid value for DZ.
If MDZ's value is low based off of stupid scouts not grasping he can't play the right side, then keep him until he plays better. Common sense. Let the bidding war between the Ducks, Red Wings, Bruins begin for Girardi. I expect Pitt to quietly get involved as well as the Black Hawks. The Hawks have an amazing offense but their defense past Keith and Seabrook is crap.
Yes Dis, I root for CBJ except when they play the Rangers. All you Dubi haters try to define him by his goals. He was never a goal scorer at any level, so expecting him to be that in the NHL was never realistic. His value is his all around game. Rangers are still trying to replace what the lost with him. He has played tremendously for CBJ. Is at a little under a point per game, plays in every situation, great on face offs, pk, hits like a tank, sets others up, and his sheer intensity lifts that entire team, said so by his coach. They missed his fire just for practice, said so his coach.
You are on drugs. He hasn't played tremendously at all for the Jackets. His offense was been just as inconsistent for them as it was here and he's been hurt a lot. You are so wrong on Dubinsky it's mind boggling. He's far below a PPG now.
In 61 games for the Jackets he has 8 goals and 44 points. Whoopdee damn do. 8 goals for over 4 million freakin sucks.
I like MDZ and disagree with most of his haters but would trade him straight up for Methot, he's 6'3 230 and is what the Rangers defense has been missing for years: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJjTM9iWPE4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJjTM9iWPE4 The objective few on this board also see pucks hopping over every dman's stick or skate, name one Ranger dman that does do a good job of keeping the usually bouncing, off-target unexpected passes in the offensive zone. Ryan McDonough's inexcusable gaffe lead to the game tying goal by the Caps but not a whisper since he wasn't wearing #4. I don't like Glen either and think he should go but he's not going to be stupid enough to give MDZ away, he realizes there's more value to the guy than an Ottawa newspaper thinks.
62's PPG estimation is off, but his overall point still remains. Dubi plays his solid all-around game and this year is playing at a 60+ pt pace, which would be highest on the Rangers. His contract isn't a bargain, but at $4.2M cap hit he's far from the worse contract in either the Jackets or Rangers. This team would benefit from having him on the roster.
No one is saying give DZ away, not sure who has ever said we should. I am saying that based on everything I have seen and read, we will not re-sign him this summer, and I think he will be dealt sooner or later this season. That's just the way it is. You may not agree. You may not like it, but don't call the people who see the writing on the wall haters. I guess Sather and AV are MDZ haters also? Because they are the ones looking to deal him, scratching him, and in AV's case saying stuff about him. Come on panzer. It is what it is with DZ whether you or I agree with it.
As of this exact moment that Nash deal has been a poor deal. Not sure how anyone can argue it right now. With that said, it could/should change as soon as Nash gets his sh*t together. Let's hope he does it sooner rather than later.
Chuck my post clearly said I would deal MDZ for Methot and I even posted a few links to demonstrate his physical play, what part of that is unclear to you? You writing hundreds of negative posts about MDZ isn't swaying my opinion and unless you're reading quotes from Sather or AV they're irrelevant, just fodder to bolster your biased opinion. Many posters have said they hate MDZ including yourself thus the moniker "haters", I'm of the opinion he's no worse than Moore, Stralman or Falk but any bad play by MDZ is magnified by your dislike of the guy to justify an opinion. McD made a terrible play on the second Cap goal and Moore made a bad mistake on the third goal, doesn't mean they have to go just part of hockey. AV has scratched several players this year, I don't think Glen has much call on who AV scratches it's mostly a coaching decision.
Good for you buddy. I am happy you have your opinion, and clearly you should. That's what makes the world go round. I am not trying to convince you or anyone of anything. I am simply mentioning what I see. We will agree to disagree if you think AV is a fan of DZ. He has scratched him numerous times. He called him out a few times. We will also agree to disagree if you think Sather is a fan of DZ these days. Why is MDZ in pretty much every trade rumor you read surrounding us? Sure you can say they are all wrong, anything is possible, but I prefer to deal in reality. For better or for worse AV is not a fan. For better or for worse Sather is now on board with that as well. And for better or for worse very good chance the next deal MDZ signs will not be with the New York Rangers. Is what it is fella. I didn't tell AV to scratch him. I didn't tell AV to call him out a few times. I didn't tell Sather to try and trade him in many rumored deals. Has nothing to do with me buddy, just the way it is for better or for worse, agree or disagree. If you want my opinion, I think MDZ is a mess. Cannot shoot and soft in the corners. So I am 100% on board with Sather looking to deal him. But only if we get a solid offer, cannot just give him away. That's my opinion. What is not my opinion is AV and Sather don't love MDZ these days. What is not my opinion is MDZ is in a ton of trade rumors. Those are real and not simply my opinion.
31, open your eyes and stop smoking crack. Dubinsky has 8 goals in 61 games for the Jackets. That sucks beyond belief for 4 million a season and can't be disputed.
And for the people who keep saying "you can't just look Dubi's goals..." YES YOU CAN when he is getting paid like a top 6 forward.
