Problems With The Us Military

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  1. SirLaker

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    Well, the US has already warned him. He pretty much blew them off and said he didn't care what the US had to say. This is serious sh*t.
     
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    wow lakersfan - you are out of it.Iran is a country that is in a good position domestically - their president is a smart man believe it or not - in his heart he wishes the best for his country because he actually has improved his country. He knows that getting in any war with a super power or even Israel (which is backed by a super power) would be disastrous and just wipe out any positive things Ahmadinejad has done. He has never flat out said once we get Nukes we will bomb the US and Israel - he said that they will not be threatened, and if Israel or the US decides to attack Iran - Iran will respond. (which is the logical thing to do - he's trying to protect his country and people.) Like the US, like Israel, Iran want's to feel safe in a world that's so strung up on nuclear weaponry. Also - about our troops. What on earth have we accomplished - what? We got rid of some terrorists that only adds fuel to the fire and creates more angry terrorists - what good is that? Or how about the civil war that was sparked by the US's presence? There was no such thing as Sunni's fighting against Shiite's - it just never happened. Now, Saddam Hussein has killed a lot of people. Saddam was estimated to have killed in the million range - in TWENTY FIVE years of presidency. In only three years, the United States' presence alone has killed 1/3 that number. Ya - real accomplishment. Not to mention 3000+ troops who were killed in action - troops whose lives could have been saved if it wasnt for the decision making of President Bush. Who else do we blame it on? President bush used September 11th as an unfair excuse. He claimed that he would fight terrorists all over the world. Well down goes Afghanistan - War over, right? No - Bush is on a roll - while he's in the middle east already, lets knock down fu*kin Saddam - my dad's dream fulfilled.F*ck bush - and yes, I blame him for all the chaos that has went down - and I'm not being ignorant cause I know my fair share.
     
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    People on the left side. Stop the bull sh*t. Sadam Hussein is gone. His sons, gone. We are being protected right now thanks to our US troops. They are doing an outstanding job. We have not been attacked since we went in to war. I think we should get out of Iraq because we have done enough but we should continue to stay in countries like Afghanistan and eliminate the Taliban fuckers. Give our troops credit that they so much deserve and stop putting your party and agenda ahead of them so it wins you votes somehow.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ReppinTheD @ Mar 3 2007, 10:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>wow lakersfan - you are out of it.Iran is a country that is in a good position domestically - their president is a smart man believe it or not - in his heart he wishes the best for his country because he actually has improved his country. He knows that getting in any war with a super power or even Israel (which is backed by a super power) would be disastrous and just wipe out any positive things Ahmadinejad has done. He has never flat out said once we get Nukes we will bomb the US and Israel - he said that they will not be threatened, and if Israel or the US decides to attack Iran - Iran will respond. (which is the logical thing to do - he's trying to protect his country and people.) Like the US, like Israel, Iran want's to feel safe in a world that's so strung up on nuclear weaponry. Also - about our troops. What on earth have we accomplished - what? We got rid of some terrorists that only adds fuel to the fire and creates more angry terrorists - what good is that? Or how about the civil war that was sparked by the US's presence? There was no such thing as Sunni's fighting against Shiite's - it just never happened. Now, Saddam Hussein has killed a lot of people. Saddam was estimated to have killed in the million range - in TWENTY FIVE years of presidency. In only three years, the United States' presence alone has killed 1/3 that number. Ya - real accomplishment. Not to mention 3000+ troops who were killed in action - troops whose lives could have been saved if it wasnt for the decision making of President Bush. Who else do we blame it on? President bush used September 11th as an unfair excuse. He claimed that he would fight terrorists all over the world. Well down goes Afghanistan - War over, right? No - Bush is on a roll - while he's in the middle east already, lets knock down fu*kin Saddam - my dad's dream fulfilled.F*ck bush - and yes, I blame him for all the chaos that has went down - and I'm not being ignorant cause I know my fair share.</div> :happy0144:
     
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    do yall not understand that each branch can check each other...so instead of blaming the president, try blaming the entire government...cause Bush doesn't have anymore power than the Congress does....
     
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    Iran did publically say that if the US does anything that they take as an act of agression they will strike. for the most part this whole thing with Iran is nothing more than a dick mesuring contest. Iran will not attack the US, and the US likely won't attack Iran.back to the initial question, the US military is and always has been designed to be a conqueroring force, not an occupying force. The US has always had trouble holding onto areas inwhich its occupied. American soldiers are trained to win a war, not the peace. which is what is happening in Iraq, the war is essentially over, its just the peace which the US cannot maintain. for the most part the insurgents are attack the Iraqi people and US troop causalties are just collateral damage.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ReppinTheD @ Mar 3 2007, 09:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>wow lakersfan - you are out of it.Iran is a country that is in a good position domestically - their president is a smart man believe it or not - in his heart he wishes the best for his country because he actually has improved his country. He knows that getting in any war with a super power or even Israel (which is backed by a super power) would be disastrous and just wipe out any positive things Ahmadinejad has done. He has never flat out said once we get Nukes we will bomb the US and Israel - he said that they will not be threatened, and if Israel or the US decides to attack Iran - Iran will respond. (which is the logical thing to do - he's trying to protect his country and people.) Like the US, like Israel, Iran want's to feel safe in a world that's so strung up on nuclear weaponry. Also - about our troops. What on earth have we accomplished - what? We got rid of some terrorists that only adds fuel to the fire and creates more angry terrorists - what good is that? Or how about the civil war that was sparked by the US's presence? There was no such thing as Sunni's fighting against Shiite's - it just never happened. Now, Saddam Hussein has killed a lot of people. Saddam was estimated to have killed in the million range - in TWENTY FIVE years of presidency. In only three years, the United States' presence alone has killed 1/3 that number. Ya - real accomplishment. Not to mention 3000+ troops who were killed in action - troops whose lives could have been saved if it wasnt for the decision making of President Bush. Who else do we blame it on? President bush used September 11th as an unfair excuse. He claimed that he would fight terrorists all over the world. Well down goes Afghanistan - War over, right? No - Bush is on a roll - while he's in the middle east already, lets knock down fu*kin Saddam - my dad's dream fulfilled.F*ck bush - and yes, I blame him for all the chaos that has went down - and I'm not being ignorant cause I know my fair share.</div>I'm not even going to seriously acknowlege your post...you are someone who actually believes that Iran wants nuclear energy but not for weapons.EDIT: The Iranian leader is a lunatic..how the hell can you compliment the man by saying that he is a smart man and wants best for his country and then you go and blame everything on Bush. Wow.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LakersFan247 @ Mar 3 2007, 11:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm not even going to seriously acknowlege your post...you are someone who actually believes that Iran wants nuclear energy but not for weapons.</div>That is one of the reasons they want it. No one besides them really knows. People who live there or are from there believe that and that's what they are doing and so do I. And people here who have an overly bad image of the Middle East think that they are making bombs. They deserve to be able to use nuclear energy like any other country. Even if they get nukes they wouldn't attack the US because the US could destroy the country pretty easily and we also have plenty of allies. Iran won't ever have the resources to have a serious attack against us.He is a smart man, and he does want to help the country. He has done some good things for them. For poor people and attempted to improve women's rights(small scale). He doesn't really have all that much power either. The Iranian president doesn't have the power, the other leader does...Ahmadinejad is mostly a face and a funny character on talk shows.
     
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    You know what I am not going to sit here and read how the democrats don't think our troops are doing there best job. Maybe we should bring the troops home and let the fuckers attack America and then decide if we should be fighting terror or not. My god this makes me sick.
     
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    Iran wants fusion power for weapons purposes only. It would be a lot cheaper and provide them a lot more energy if they went with coal or oil power. Ahmadajine(sp?) is a very intelligent man, but he is a radicle, and thats why the world should worry.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (redneck @ Mar 4 2007, 12:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Iran wants fusion power for weapons purposes only. It would be a lot cheaper and provide them a lot more energy if they went with coal or oil power. Ahmadajine(sp?) is a very intelligent man, but he is a radicle, and thats why the world should worry.</div>Why does the US use nuclear energy if there are better ways?
     
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    Mainly because most the Nuclear facilities in this country were build in the 50s and 60s when Nuclear Energy was the big thing. also, most Nuclear power plants use old Nuclear weapons for energy. The US hasn't actually built a Nuclear Power plant since the three mile Island incident.
     
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    This is a crazy world.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LakersFan247 @ Mar 3 2007, 10:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah I guess...but Kanye West was a huge contribution to that belief amongst blacks.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JO1j77mo6Vc</div>Not really. They don't like him because honestly republicans don't care about black people at all. They are looking in everyway possible to be traditional and diminish their rights.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MaRdYC26 @ Mar 4 2007, 09:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Not really. They don't like him because honestly republicans don't care about black people at all. They are looking in everyway possible to be traditional and diminish their rights.</div> :happy0144: Whatever floats your boat..
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kingjamez @ Mar 4 2007, 12:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>:happy0144: Whatever floats your boat..</div>Damn right, bi*ch.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MaRdYC26 @ Mar 4 2007, 12:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Damn right, bi*ch.</div>Please don't use that language.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dmoney @ Mar 4 2007, 12:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Please don't use that language.</div>Oh shut up.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MaRdYC26 @ Mar 4 2007, 06:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Not really. They don't like him because honestly republicans don't care about black people at all. They are looking in everyway possible to be traditional and diminish their rights.</div> :HAHAHA:
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MaRdYC26 @ Mar 4 2007, 10:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Not really. They don't like him because honestly republicans don't care about black people at all. They are looking in everyway possible to be traditional and diminish their rights.</div>And how do you figure that? I'm yet to see a bill in congress that would effect only black rights; I've seen plenty who effect every single person in this country, not none that just isolate the black community. and don't give me that horseshit about New Orleans either. The government did a lot for those people, its the state and local government who hasn't done sh*t. Nagin wouldn't use the school buses to evacuate people because "its like what happened to the Slaves" or someshit, instead he rather the citizens of New Orleans experience what happened to Atlantis, and get swollowed by the sea. The federal government is only responsible to a certain degree, than it goes down to the individual. like Kennedy said, "ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country"The Republicans wanted to do some immigration reform, which would really help black workers; but it was the democrats who have pretty much put a kabosh on it.
     

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