Prospect update. Is a star being born in our system?

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  1. kreidertime

    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    Has anybody noticed that Dale Weise has 8 G and 12 A. He's 26 now. This is what I always said about players like Immonen and Helminen. If teams stay with these guys in the NHL for a few years who are highly productive in the NHL, sometimes they figure the NHL out and become good role players. He may never do this again but it's always interesting to see a player take 3-4 years then suddenly produce in the NHL.
     
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    No comment
     
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    Korpikoski has become a decent player too, maybe eventually he ends up back in NY.
     
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    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    He asked out of NY. Something tells me Sather holds a grudge.
     
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    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    Ever since I tweeted Nieves about what a unmotivated, schmuck he was becoming as a prospect, he seems to be pulling his head out of his ass.
     
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    Ranger71 Well-Known Member

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    There's raw ability there, maybe the lightbulb goes on once he leaves Michigan. Fogarty too.
     
  7. kreidertime

    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    Kid needs to grow up. His twitter account looks like a H.S. kid who doesn't know what to do with himself.
     
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    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    Tambellini is having a heck of a year now. Because of his size, if he can get up to about 210 with muscle, he might have a higher upside than Buchnevich and Duclair.
     
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    Tambellini seems like he has smarts being in a hockey family and could be a solid 3rd liner. I still wouldn't rule out using him in a good dl deal either though as has pretty decent value compared to Kristo most others. If you package him with Moore and a 2nd thats a good base for a UFA.
     
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    I think Tambellini has more upside than a 3rd liner. He's 9th in the WHL in scoring and almost all of the guys ahead of him are shrimps. Kind of small players that almost never make the NHL. He had 1G 1 A last night.

    Ducliar had a 4 point night. Graves had 1 G 1 A. He now has 13 goals 16 A in 39 games. An incredible offensive jump from his previous years.

    Kristo has actually been playing well. He's been hot and now has 17 G. Lindberg had 1 G, 1 A. He's up to 16 goals now. Seems like McIlrath has played at a pretty high level down there for the past month.
     
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    Agree dump regarding big mac. Most reports and comments I've seen over past 2 months have said he is hands down Hartford's best d-man. Here is recent comment I found:
    phil says:
    Feb 18, 2015 at 1:41 am
    I’ve watched Big Mac play in each of his seasons at Hartford…most recently this week…and anyone calling him a bust needs to get their head examined. Hartford has been and continues to be a different team when he’s in the lineup. Mac is not ‘just’ a fighter. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if Gernander told him to dial down the fisticuffs or that the Rangers’ brass mentioned something to him about it, because he doesn’t seem to do it as often. Rather, he picks and chooses the times when he drops the mits. One thing Mac is: A cruise missle of a hitter. The guy is seriously good in thaat regard. And while he’ll never be mistaken for Kreider or Hagelin, this idea that he’s some lead-footed bender is just nowhere near accurate. I watched him chase down a guy who had three or four steps on him last weekend and then stick-check the puck away to stop a breakaway and –because of Hartford’s ridiculously bad netminding –likely a goal. Will Mac be Chara? Hell no. Will he be Beuk? Maybe. But a bust? No way. He’ll be in the Ranger lineup the next time one of the righties goes down.
    Rangers obviously have big decision to make with him as he has to go thru waivers if not on the big team next season and no way he makes it thru waivers. Therefore either rangers trade him at the deadline which I'm hoping they don't do or make him a part of defense next season as he can't go to hartford except for conditioning and I don't see the rangers losing him for nothing. They are in cap hell and need to sign guys like stepan, zucc, hags and msl. Wonder if the rangers either sell high on Klein or convince Boyle who is playing on fumes to either pick another team he'd like to finish his career with or retire. Would be a shame if Mac is not traded at the deadline and lost because Boyle on the team one year too long for a young kid who after all these years looks like he would be a contributor (and a cheap one at that) to the team. And those of you thinking Brady is the next d-man up he's had a tough season in college and is a lefty D meaning unless av has a change of heart he doesn't put lefty D's on the right side or vice versa.
     
  12. cagedlion

    cagedlion "I am the problem, and I am the solution."

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    Agree with the above analysis. McIlrath has made a 360 turn-around
    & is better than last year. It's taken a few years, but I think he lands on the
    parent team next year. I was really down on him last year; he looked lost.
    I guess it takes time before a player "gets it".
     
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    I would deal him with a 2nd rounder if his value is still high.
     
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    Chuck, I would hate to see our only ready RD in the system who costs a dollar traded for a rental player. But unfortunately, that may be the case.
     
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    Our top 4 D are signed long term. If McIlrath still has good value, and dealing him gives us what we need to win a cup...see ya.
     
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    McIlrath will never play on this team for AV. He doesn't have any offense in his game and AV requires some offensive skill from his dman. He's the physical dman we NEED on this team, but AV doesn't want that type of player. McIlrath should 100% be tradeable for us to get a good return.
     
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    Let us hope Sather doesn't do something incredibly stupid like trade Graves, Skjei or Walcott because he figures his core is set with Girardi, McDonagh, Staal and Klein. To me, 3/4 of that core will start showing age in about 2-3 years.
     
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    2 to 3 years from now...sorry dump but there will always be some second rounder that will come out of no where...some new prospect that will replace the last prospect...we cant keep thinking about 2 to 3 years from now....

    staying in the middle of the pack is what has hurt this organization for so many years...you either need to win it or completely rebuild
     
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    interestingly enough, when i saw the 'Pack game this past weekend they had McIlrath on the PP unit on the off wing for the one-timers. Not much to see there, unfortunately, as his shot sucked, to put it plainly.
     
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    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    Wrong Al. Your kind of thinking leads to one cup if you are lucky or a decade of sucking. You have to be good every year. That is how teams win more than 1 cup. By being strong every year and then getting on a run some of those years.
     
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    Couldn't agree with you more Al. Respectfully I disagree with dump on this. Hank is 33 now. Nash in his prime. Cannot worry about a 2nd rounder or a pick in the 20's right now. We need to win a cup within the next 2 or 3 years. That is the focus.

    With that said I would not deal Skjei, Miller, Buch, or Duclair. Everything else down below is on the table.
     
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