Wow, let me get this straight. Are you saying that government employees are employed by the government, whereas private sector employees are not employed by the government? That's amazing if true! I wonder why no one ever realized that before. barfo
No, I have four friends with that particular degree. They all agree on two things: it was a waste of time and much easier than their undergraduate degrees. My question goes to effectiveness. We've decided that these teacher need graduate degrees in Education, but has it translated to better test scores? No. What about throwing more money at the problem? We spend huge amounts of money at schools and test scores are stagnant. Perhaps the problems we face in education can't be solved by money or an MAT. I say we try something different. Teach for America seems to have a good plan.
And those taxpayer costs are decided on by society, via their representatives, and paid for by society. That society (who both decides and pays) includes government employees. I'm glad we finally came together on this, as two members of the same society.
You know, there's a line on the tax form that lets you pay more than what you owe. If you love government so much, go for it.
My wife is a teacher and in Washington teachers have to obtain an MA to continue to teach. It didn't improve her teaching and left us $45,000 in debt. Now, it's about $1,200 per year in CE. That's more effective than the Masters degree program.
My wife suggested measuring what the kids learned during the year as opposed to measuring one class's scores against another class in a different school.... If the kids aren't getting any smarter, then the teacher probably isn't teaching.
I'm willing to be part of a society that collectively decides what government should and shouldn't do, and pay my legally determined share of those costs. If you don't want to be part of such a society, I'm sure there are others you could move to. tl;dr: Love it or leave it.
That's not the way it works, though. It's devolved to us giving elected people a blank check for whatever they want, and we foot the bill. And what they want is what lobbyists want.
So you want a society where no services are provided unless they turn a profit? Rich people don't give a shit about public education because their kids go to private schools.
Seems like we're spending $10,000 a student and not getting very good results with the society we have. Spending $2.5T on just the federal government isn't enough, they have to spend $4T and we're still not getting a whole lot of value for it. We've had many great leaders arise from poverty to that greatness without public schools. Does every govt. program have to decline to uselessness unless we throw ever increasing amounts of money at it? And then throw more new govt. programs on top of those?
What we need is better children. What year was the last time that happened? Yes, unless people stop making more babies. barfo
FAIL Not exactly the right question. But Obama would be one, no? He attended private schools from 1971 on, and attended Occidental College, Columbia, and Harvard. Where was he before 1971? Indonesia - they must have great public schools. So you admit it's doomed to failure. That's a start.
Back to the thread title--since Gov. Walker will soon be recalled--along with enough legislators to bring down the small Republican majority in power in his state for less than 2 months now--he is a dead man walking. Get it? Dead Man Walking Walker. http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2058601,00.html?xid=fblike
What happened to those that stood so bravely against "violent rhetoric"? Of course, it only applies to those not on the left. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lee-stranahan/shame-ignoring-death-thre_b_835805.html These unions are little different than those portrayed in "On The Waterfront".
I said these threats need to be denounced a week ago. LINK (I think this is the only time you actually linked to the huffingtonpost)
Bully for you, but I want those that tried to blame the Tea Party for Gabrielle Giffords denounce this kind of shit.
