Politics Public Impeachment Hearings

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  1. MARIS61

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    Ron Johnson casts doubt on Vindman testimony, says NSC official fits 'profile' of Never-Trumper

    By Andrew O'Reilly

    Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wis., sent a letter on Monday to the ranking Republicans on the House Intelligence and Oversight Committees in which he detailed his account of White House meetings with Senate lawmakers about releasing foreign aid to Ukraine -- and cast doubt on one of the inquiry’s key witnesses just a day before the official’s planned testimony.

    In his letter to Reps. Jim Jordan of Ohio and Devin Nunes of California, Johnson– the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee’s Europe subcommittee – said he viewed the House impeachment inquiry into President Trump as an “effort to sabotage the Trump administration."

    Johnson wrote in his letter that Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, a National Security Council official who is scheduled to testify before the House Intelligence Committee on Tuesday, is one of “a significant number of bureaucrats and staff members within the executive branch have never accepted President Trump as legitimate and resent his unorthodox style and his intrusion onto their turf.”

    “They react by leaking to the press and participating in the ongoing effort to sabotage his policies and, if possible, remove him from office,” Johnson said. “It is entirely possible that Vindman fits this profile.”

    Johnson, who attended Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s inauguration on May 20, was responding to a request from Jordan and Nunes to hear the Wisconsin senator’s account of the meetings about aid to Ukraine.

    Johnson, who in his letter reiterated that he had “winced” when Sondland told him Trump likely would unfreeze nearly $400 million in military aid to Ukraine if the eastern European nation announced an investigation into the 2016 election, said Trump personally told him the reason for withholding aid was to deal with corruption in Ukraine.

    “He reminded me how thoroughly corrupt Ukraine was and again conveyed his frustration that Europe doesn’t do its fair share of providing military aid,” Johnson wrote of his conversation with Trump. “He specifically cited the sort of conversation he would have with Angela Merkel, chancellor of Germany. To paraphrase President Trump: ‘Ron, I talk to Angela and ask her, ‘Why don’t you fund these things,’ and she tells me, ‘Because we know you will.’ We’re schmucks. Ron. We’re schmucks.’”

    The Associated Press contributed to this report.
     
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    A republican casting doubt on the impeachment? Is this breaking news? They can keep throwing money and lawyers at the House but that's all they'll end up accomplishing...how about cabinet members following the Constitution and honoring subpoenas as the law dictates they should?
     
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    Deny, deny, deny.
     
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    This isn't North Korea. Disagreeing with Trump is not treason.

    What the hell is fits the profile of never Trumper? Is this some scientific analysis? Or just some made up shit to not answer questions?

    I ask again, where are all the hundreds of" real Americans" in the foreign service who consider Ambassador Yovanovich a disgrace? Why aren't they all parading on Fox News? Do they exist outside Maris' imagination?
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    She graduated from the best school in Oregon, Oregon Episcopal School, OES, with straight 'A's. She also started a program where kids from OES would tutor underpriveleged children at nearby public high school. She's hightly ethical, moral and talented. She could have gotten into Harvard but decided not to try because she felt like she would have been more into the average at Harvard and she wanted to stand out. All she thinks about are her studies.
     
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    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

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    We could use a whole lot more like her.
     
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    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Trump doesn't give an expletive
     
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    Acting against his directions in your position as his official communicator and implementer of America's policies/relations with foreign powers is treason.
     
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    Schiff has been absolutely terrific in these hearings.

    And why the F does Gym Jordan not ever wear a jacket? Respect the chamber, dumbass.
     
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    Treason is campaigning through foreign diplomatic channels with the threat of withholding Congressionally approved military aid....combining of partisan politics for gain and affairs of the nation in regards to an ally is an impeachable offense....she's brave and heroic and honest...something Trump fails in all 3 categories...Trump is a fake nationalist...and an admirer of dictators, sultans and monarchs. He's destroyed our global boundaries and tilted the balance of military power towards China and Russia
     
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    If my name were Gym, I wouldn't be inclined to wear a jacket, either. :)
     
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    This is over.

    This afternoon's testimony was damning.
     
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    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

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    As per usual, wrong again.
     
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    Treason is the only crime defined in the U.S. Constitution. According to Article III, Section 3:

    Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.
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    ...You're welcome.
     
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    Is that because everyone around him has been convicted of a crime?
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Sometimes you have to fill the swamp in order to drain it.

    barfo
     
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    ^^^This is true...I mean, it only makes sense to first fill the swamp with enough water to hopefully drown all of the "critters"...then and only then, do you completely drain the swamp.
     
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    Republicans kept complaining about hearings held in a basement room. Now, it's a "dungeon". We're they in chains? I expect to see scruffy bearded filthy Congressmen and ragged Congresswomen licking water off the floor.
     
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    So its treasonous to talk about the president commiting treason.

    I know youre a shtick, but thats something else.
     

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