Question About Obamacare

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  1. The_Lillard_King

    The_Lillard_King Westside

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    Nice to hear that a company is considered small business if they have under 50 employees.

    I have a different view of what a small business is, but like the federal standard as applied to Obamacare.
     
  2. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Why do people need health insurance?

    How about we start by answering that simple question.

    If you could just show up at a clinic and get cared for without having to pay or owe anything, what is the point of insurance?
     
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    MARIS61 Real American

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    Is "senior fellow" pc-speak for "old chap"? :dunno:
     
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    The_Lillard_King Westside

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    Ever been to one of those clinics?
     
  5. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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  6. Denny Crane

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    I'm making the distinction between CARE and INSURANCE.

    If we did away with insurance, why wouldn't govt. run clinics be the best that the rich can be taxed to pay for?
     
  7. BLAZER PROPHET

    BLAZER PROPHET Well-Known Member

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    It seems to me the problem is that we have insurance companies and the President wants to also pay for a national health care program at the same time. Like being double charged.
     
  8. Denny Crane

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    OK, so instead of paying $500/month for insurance, how about you pay $50 to go to a govt. clinic only when you need to? If you need heart surgery or something, you pay $1000.

    If you don't want govt. clinic care, you can deal with a doctor who's not part of the system (a govt. employee) and buy blue cross or whatever.
     
  9. Stevenson

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    Cato has incorrect facts. There are 28 million businesses in the US. 99% are small business (According to the SBA, less than 500 employees), and actually the vast majority have 25 or fewer employees. There are 20 million one-person businesses in the country: The self-employed, the freelancer, the independent contractor, etc.

    Obamacare will help the vast majority of all small business and their employees. The '49 should I hire the 50th' scenario is a red herring.

    BTW, helping and knowing about small business is what I do for a living.
     
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    3RA1N1AC 00110110 00111001

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    good stuff

    and like i said before, if there is a demand for that 50th worker, he will find a job regardless
     
  11. chris_in_pdx

    chris_in_pdx OLD MAN

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    Hello Single Payer!
     
  12. Denny Crane

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    It's not single payer. In that system, the govt. just pays the bills to private health care providers. All doctors get paid by the govt. Everyone participates because there is no alternative/

    It's like the Veterans Administration. The govt. hires doctors, builds hospitals, buys equipment. Only those doctors hired by the govt. get paid by the govt. Those who want to participate go to the govt. hospitals or clinics. Those who do not are free to pay out of pocket or buy whatever insurance they want.

    Keyword being FREE, as in Liberty (not as in no cost, because there is no such thing as a free lunch).
     

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