Quite Reasonable that : God Does Exist

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  1. SlyPokerDog

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    My article is from yesterday. Yours is from 2010. I win.
     
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    Yes. I agreed that (here's the key qualifier -- don't skip it) the so-called "strong atheist" viewpoint could be seen as faith-driven. But there aren't many of those atheists actually around these parts, which is why your attacks on that position are often rightly criticized as being somewhat pointless.

    The typical faith-driven theist says something like this: "I know there's a God because I feel His presence. I don't need a test or a theory or proof, and in fact those things don't matter, because I just KNOW". The equivalent statement, from an atheist perspective, might be something like this: "There is no god. I simply KNOW this because of a profound understanding that I have about the universe, completely separate from any evidence or proof. This is a truth that I recognize, but cannot explain. And I don't need to." This is the "strong atheist" position, and yes, I agree that it is "faith" driven, in a funny sense. But nobody here is taking that position.

    The far more common atheist position (also known as "weak atheism", and which you insist is only "agnosticism" -- whatever) is that there is no evidence for an all-powerful, all-knowing god, and that the default position in regards to fantastic claims in the absence of evidence is disbelief. That is my position. I think it's close to the positions of the other self-described atheists in this thread as well. And no, I maintain that it is not at all faith-driven, at least not in any meaningful sense.
     
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    So what are you going to say when you meet God?
     
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    I'm gonna say "Dude! Why didn't you ever appear on one of my tortillas?"

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