Random criteria for awards.

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  1. kobe23

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    Re: How Wade chooses MVP

    fg% wise he is LOL but ft% and 3p%, he isnt. i know its bcoz he goes hard to the paint.

    which is kinda mind boggling...

    its either he makes it, and1 or misses it then gets fouled (the missed shot doesnt count as an attempted fg)

    kobe also, on occasion, takes mind boggling jumpers which tend to dip his overall fg%.
     
  2. Moo2K4

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    Re: How Wade chooses MVP

    Just wondering, but can you name a superstar that doesn't force a bad shot here and there? Kobe is certainly not the only superstar who forces crap shots.
     
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    Re: How Wade chooses MVP

    So does: LeBrick, Wade, Arenas, Carter, Pierce, and other super stars. They all take bad shots.
     
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    Re: How Wade chooses MVP

    haha ok ok

    im not trying to argue with you, just wanted to point that out :cheers:
     
  5. Denny Crane

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    Re: How Wade chooses MVP

    Serious consideration for Wade indeed.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=MVP09

    18 "experts" at ESPN voted, here's out it turned out:

    The tally

    LeBron James: 89 points (17 first-place votes, 1 second)
    Dwyane Wade: 62 points (1 first-place vote, 8 second, 7 third, 2 fourth)
    Kobe Bryant: 53 points (8 second-place votes, 5 third, 1 fourth, 4 fifth)
    Dwight Howard: 31 points (1 second-place vote, 2 third, 10 fourth, 1 fifth)
    Chris Paul: 22 points (3 third-place votes, 3 fourth, 7 fifth)
    Chauncey Billups: 8 points (1 third-place vote, 1 fourth, 3 fifth)
    Paul Pierce: 3 points (1 fourth-place vote, 1 fifth)
    Tony Parker: 2 points (2 fifth-place votes)
    Five points awarded for first-place votes, four points for second place, and so on.


    The ballots

    Henry Abbott | J.A. Adande | Jon Barry | Maurice Brooks | Chris Broussard | Ric Bucher
    Chad Ford | LZ Granderson | Jemele Hill | John Hollinger | Tim Legler | Eric Neel
    Chris Palmer | Dr. Jack Ramsay | Jalen Rose | Chris Sheridan | Marc Stein | David Thorpe
     
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    Re: How Wade chooses MVP

    "Serious" is a vague word then, because not even coming close to winning the award is not serious to me. I don't get into disputes about second place, which is worthless.

    And Chris Paul has been as good as him this year, with more wins which matches past criteria more.
     
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    Re: How Wade chooses MVP

    "experts" don't prove anything

    Experts gave PJ Brown more votes than Kobe Bryant in the 04-05 season.

    I thought you knew better than to base opinions off of ESPN.
     
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    When the experts don't vote and you do, then "serious consideration" will have your meaning.
     
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    A virtually unanimous MVP choice is not serious consideration to everyone.
     
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    17 first place votes

    vs

    1 first place vote

    um, okay...
     
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    It is not even an ESPN award.
     
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    89 points to 62 points

    And they're quite similar to the guys who will do the voting.
     
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    Second place is worthless in life usually.
     
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    Points don't matter.

    Does the second place finisher end up with MVP? Um, no...

    Lakers finished 2nd place last year in the Finals, what do we get? Nothing.

    17 to 1, when it actually counts.

    I could care less how many 2nd place, or 3rd place votes he got.
     
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    I'm actually very suprised Lebron isn't leading by more. This year should be a no-brainer.
     
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    There is a reason its called BSPN Denny. The East Coast Bias of the show is ridiculous.
     
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    Kobe was robbed of two MVP awards actually. Dirk over Kobe? That's disgusting... really sickening, actually.

    The criteria seems to be being the best player on the team with the best record.
     
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    Exactly.

    LeBron deserves it this year. Kobe should be in 2nd.

    Whatever. The fact that ESPN has Wade that high is not necessarily a joke, but it shows their bias. Kobe had a better personal season with less talent in 2005-2006 and 2006-2007.
     
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    PJ Brown receiving more votes than Kobe was a funnier incident than the ones already pointed out.
     
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    I think Wade is more deserving, but LeBron will ultimately get it.
     

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