<div class="quote_poster">Chutney Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Yea, but all your knowledge comes from scientific laws and empirical capability (the senses, etc.). And all of that is based on the idea of causation. So, its basically a belief that patterns that have happened in the past will always repeat themselves. And that's just as big a leap of faith when you think about it. The Sun has set for hundreds of millions of years, but is that guarantee that it will do the same tomorrow? That's the point I'm trying to make about certainty (For the record, it applied just as much, if not more, to Umair as it did to you. I just quoted your post because it seemed like a good place to make my point). Didn't mean to put words in your mouth. And no, I don't believe in creationism.</div> Of course there's no certainty. If there were, why else would we be having this back-and-forth? You're pointing out things that are borderline irrelevant to the discussion and babbling on like a first year philosophy major. And if you don't believe in creationism, I would assume you believe in evolution, or some offshoot of the theory? <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I was saying Science doesn't prove religions. Faith/Beliefs does.</div> Your faith is rooted in fear. You were brought up by your parents and your culture to believe a certain way, and it's so deeply implanted into your subconscious, that you're afraid to question it. Therefore, you rely on bullshit explanations like, "faith." The sad thing is, if you were born to white Anglo-Saxon parents, then you'd probably be an radical right-wing Christian. You're a product of your environment and not your own independent thought, Umair.
Man, that science thing is getting thrown in his face badly. Sucks to be you Umair. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Voodoo Child:</div><div class="quote_post">Of course there's no certainty. Why else would we be having this debate? You're pointing out things that are borderline irrelevant to the discussion and babbling on like a first year philosophy major.</div> What debate are you talking about? I just made a point about that and had to explain myself like 4 times, because people thought I was some sort of wacko creationist.
<div class="quote_poster">Riot Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I turned 18 a half hour ago. </div> Happy Birthday man. Go party!
<div class="quote_poster">Riot Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I turned 18 a half hour ago. </div> Congrats dude.
<div class="quote_poster">Kidd Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Umair, your annoying.</div> You don't know me personally so you can't make that comment.
<div class="quote_poster">Umair Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">You don't know me personally so you can't make that comment.</div> God finds you annoying Umair. She told me so.
Congrats, now rag on Umair. Jk jk jk, it's a sin! Really, Umair...serious here, do you expect life to be planned for you? Planned marriages? Do you expect never to experiment with **** in HS? A virgin until you get married? All of that? And I'm still waiting for the explanation of the 70+ virgins thing, can anyone answer that?
<div class="quote_poster">A.F. Venom Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Umair stop expecting people to be so strict to their religion. It's pointless, let people live.</div> Who is forcing them to believe what I believe? No one. I am just pointing things out that I believe are right/wrong. Thank you, try again.
<div class="quote_poster">Umair Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Apparently, you are an atheist and don't believe in God I am assuming. I believe there is after-life after you die. And to get to heaven, you must be a good person and not commit sins. And what do you mean limiting yourself to stupid beliefs. If you don't believe in something, at least respect other religions. Thank you.</div> Let's get one thing straight, I'm not an Athiest, I'm not anything. I hate religion so much I refuse to class myself into some stupid group. If anything, I consider myself a Realist, I understand there is no sure fire way to determine how we were created or what happens after we die, so I dont worry about it. <div class="quote_poster">Umair Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">And what do you mean limiting yourself to stupid beliefs. If you don't believe in something, at least respect other religions. Thank you.</div> Well you dont eat Beef right? You're not allowed a girlfriend. You're going to be forced to marry some one regardless of wether you like them or not. You'll never experience getting the sensation of being drunk or high, etc. etc. You're going to miss out on alot in life, all because you're hoping to better yourself for what? Somthing that is all a figment of your imagination? You can believe what you like, you have that right, just like I have the right to state my opinion. If you dont like what I have to say, you dont have to reply or read it.
<div class="quote_poster">Mamba Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Congrats, now rag on Umair. Jk jk jk, it's a sin! Really, Umair...serious here, do you expect life to be planned for you? Planned marriages? Do you expect never to experiment with **** in HS? A virgin until you get married? All of that? And I'm still waiting for the explanation of the 70+ virgins thing, can anyone answer that?</div> I dont know too much about the virgins stuff, so I cant make a comment on that. Dude, in my religion it says no sex before marriage. Why would I commit a major sin with me knowing it?
So come your wedding night and you can hold your load for about 3 seconds...you think your wife will appreciate that? Or are you allowed to uhm...have Umair Happy Time (anyone see transformers would get that)? No homo on that question, I'm really curious as to how you expect to stay a virgin though HS and college. Or is the porn mustache your human condom protecting you from all the wild girls?
<div class="quote_poster">Umair Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Dude, in my religion it says no sex before marriage. Why would I commit a major sin with me knowing it?</div> Because nothing bad is going to happen if you do so.
This thread is growing too fast, so I'll repeat what I edited into my last post in here. To Umair: Your faith is rooted in fear. You were brought up by your parents and your culture to believe a certain way, and it's so deeply implanted into your subconscious, that you're afraid to question it. Therefore, you rely on bullshit explanations like, "faith." The sad thing is, if you were born to white Anglo-Saxon parents, then you'd probably be an radical right-wing Christian. You're a product of your environment and not your own independent thought, Umair. On that note, if you could get *****, you'd submit to it. It's not a matter of choice but a matter of availability. That's becoming increasingly clear.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Well you dont eat Beef right? </div>We have to say a verse from Quran when we cut any meat before we can eat it. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">You're not allowed a girlfriend.</div>Who says you can't. People tell you that only because they believe it will eventually lead to sex. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">You're going to be forced to marry some one regardless of wether you like them or not. </div>You're getting religion and race mixed up here. You don't get forced to marry you can also date and get your wife. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">You'll never experience getting the sensation of being drunk or high, etc. etc. You're going to miss out on alot in life, all because you're hoping to better yourself for what?</div> So getting drunk/partying/sex is the only fun in life? Is that all to life? You don't believe in Heaven/Hell so obviously you don't know that that's the real life. You work in this life to get there.
So, I mentioned this a while ago, but a couple of my friends and I are bringing someone up to speed when it comes to "true" horror movies. Any recommendations? We did "Halloween" this week and I was thinking "The Omen" for next week.
<div class="quote_poster">Mamba Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">No homo on that question, I'm really curious as to how you expect to stay a virgin though HS and college. Or is the porn mustache your human condom protecting you from all the wild girls?</div> Wow, congrats on making that harsh comment. I am not sensitive, but I'll leave it at that. What's with people and having sex and crap? You can't enjoy life without doing itor something?
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">So getting drunk/partying/sex is the only fun in life? Is that all to life? You don't believe in Heaven/Hell so obviously you don't know that that's the real life. You work in this life to get there.</div> No, that's not true. That's what your parents and their ancestors were told hundreds of years ago to keep them submissive and hopeful despite the ****** conditions they were facing, and it worked. Now it's been passed down through your lineage to the point where you now embody it. Umair, what is your religion's stance on LSD?
