Stepan is not eligible for a no-trade in the first two-years of the deal but is believed to have gotten a no-trade in years 3 and 4 of the deal and a limited no-trade in years 5 and 6.
I might have to flip a coin to see if I kick Gorton in the nuts. That's interesting. So they can deal him during the first 2 years. That's comforting. Staal has a limited no trade clause after the 3rd year of his deal. So, they can dump him after next season. Not this season.
To me the key is being able to move Staal, otherwise we should move Yandle. My guess is they want to let it play out. Keep Yandle now, see how we are doing in season, and then decide. Two things I cannot see though: 1. Us letting Yandle walk after next season for nothing. 2. Us signing Yandle long term if Staal is still here. Going to be interesting to see how it plays out.
Stepan confirmed that he has a no-trade clause in 17-18 and 18-19 and then a list of 15 teams he can be traded to in 19-20 and 20-21. He also mentioned that he had no-move protection throughout.
Not crazy about 6.5 but this is what the market is bearing. At least its for 6 years and hopefully in 2 it will look like a good deal. Really wish gorton could figure out a team that would part with a mid round pick only(no bodies back) and take boyle that boyle would be happy going to. At least we pick up 4.5 from boyle next year to pay kreids. Unfortunately, someone in the staal, Yandle and klein group needs to be dealt now to pick up more cap space for hayes etc going forward. Although contract is done I wonder if gorton is investigating what a ten acquiring stepan woulfd bring back to the rangers in terms of players, prospects and draft picks.
Stepan is about $1M/yr overpaid but we had to do it. Not crazy about the limited time in which to trade him as in the next 2yrs is when we probably have our best chance to win a Cup, so doubt Gorton rocks the boat like that and trades Stepan during those 2 seasons. It looks like he's here for the long haul, and at $6.5M he better be a 70pt player going forward.
I don't think 6.5 per is crazy when you look at comparable players/deals in the NHL. Now he does need to become a year 60 + point guy, I agree, but given his role with the team and his ability to play both ends of the ice, I think it is a good deal for all involved. Two years left as an RFA...so two years with no trade restrictions...makes sense. We added the no trade for his UFA years. To me we cannot deal him for two years on his deal. The last two years he has to submit 15 teams he would go to, so we can deal him to half the league. I really don't count that as a major no trade issue. So it is years 3 and 4 only IMO.
Stepan is gonna glide around the ice now that he's gotten his big payday. He's never been a gritty guy at all, and now that he's got his money it's gonna get worse I fear. He already is awful on faceoffs, which will get worse because you have to have heart to win those, which he doesn't. Hopefully he'll prove all us doubting him wrong
LOL...Stepan has been one of our best players for the past 3 years. A homegrown guy yet people complain that he is overpaid now, has a NTC and is terrible on faceoffs...
When Brassard is making $5M/yr and is a better player today, how can anyone justify $6.5M for Stepan? his wimpy style of play and poor faceoffs ability is no secret, though i agree he plays well both ends of the ice.
I don't think Stepan knows what he's talking about. How can you have a no trade in years 1-2 but a NMC throughout when you have a limited NTC in years 5-6. Unless I'm missing something, that makes no sense.
Basically all a NMC does is ensure the player can't be sent down and get the Wade Redden treatment. No waivers without player permission.
I would guess it means he cannot be sent to the minors or bought out. That is the NMC part of the deal. The NTC part doesn't bother me when you look at it as I laid out above. As for Brass/Step, I loved the Brass deal so I won't say a negative word about it. He took less money to stay here, and honestly we got that deal done the summer before he really took off. If we tried to sign him now off of this past season he would get closer to 6 mill for sure. So good smart timing on Brass. Step was always getting more IMO. He has had better seasons than Brass until this past season for Brass, which happened AFTER his extension was signed. With everything factored in not sure Brass and Step is an apples to apples comparison.
Chuck, I could be wrong but I think you can be bought out with a NMC. This goes to the discussion we had with Vro a little while ago relating to the over 35 rules...a NMC in theory only protects valid contracts, and if you get bought out the contract is terminated. Again I could be wrong, but I believe it deals just with waivers. You can always buy a guy out as it's part of the CBA.
Could be. Not 100% sure on that. Maybe he can be bought out without his approval. You may be right. I think you are actually. Either way we see the difference between a NMC and a NTC. A guy like Stepan would never get sent down anyway, so that is a no biggie IMO.
You are obsessed with Staal. You should be focused on getting rid of a Staal if you want Yandle here long term, because no shot that can happen with Marc Staal here.
I love almost all of Stepan's game. Plus he's a right shot. He makes us better. However, for 6.5 million, he better learn how to win 48% of his f'n draws or be willing to move to wing. I'm sick of his crap faceoffs. If he doesn't improve, he has to be moved. I agree that Nash might be the one moved next year.
