Rangers trade Hagelin, 59, 179 for Etem and 41

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  1. kreidertime

    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    I'm putting Etem with Stepan. Period. Looks like they will keep Nash now.

    Zucc-Brassard-Nash
    Kreider-Stepan-Etem
    Miller-Hayes-Fast
    Hrvik-Moore-Lindberg

    Freakin Glass better not be on this team next year.
     
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    I dont think it's at all possible to get 2 forwards. After the trades we have $58.1 on the books. That leaves $13.3M to sign Stepan, Etem, Miller, Fast, a 12th forward (Lindberg?), seventh D and a backup goalie.

    Lets put Stepan in for 6, Miller Fast and Etem at roughly a combined 3.5, and 1m for a backup goalie. That's 10.5. 7th dman will run you about 700k. Lindberg at around 800k to play 4th line. Thats 12m, leaving 1.3m. That will never get you Beleskey or Williams. That may get you Stewart, and it's something we should look into.

    We should also be sending Glass out but who knows if that will happen.
     
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    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    It better. Glass sucks.
     
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    chuckd3534 Well-Known Member

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    Those lines are simply not good enough dump. Having Etem and Fast in the top 9 isn't enough. And we still have no legit R shot scorer.

    We need to keep our eyes on the prize, and no way is that a SC winning forward group...no shot.

    And lastly I do not see Glass going anywhere...sadly...no one wants him. He wasn't packaged with Cam or Hags, and I don't see him getting moved.
     
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    If we're done making moves and this is the team next year, we REALLY need Kreider, Miller and Hayes to take the next step.
     
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    chuckd3534 Well-Known Member

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    Even if they do Prod it isn't enough. Thankfully no shot those will be the lines, but if they were no shot we can win a cup. Let's not go backwards here.
     
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    He wasnt going to be moved draft day. Glass is due a roster bonus on July 1. His cap hit doesnt change but it's part of his contract. It's possible there's a cap-floor team out there willing to take the hit on but doesnt want to pay the bonus. He could be moved July 2.
     
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    I hope I am wrong, but I fully expect Glass to be here. Dump was hoping in every post that he would be packaged with Cam, which was not happening. I don't see him moved, but we can all hope I guess. Either way we have bigger things to focus on, like the top 6 R shot winger we badly need.
     
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    Unless Klein is moved (which nobody seems to want to do besides me), there is no space whatsoever for a top 6 right shot besides potentially Chris Stewart, and I'm not sure he's suited for that type of role anymore.
     
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    I don't care how they do it, all I know is those lines are not good enough to win a cup, that's the reality of it. If it means moving Klein, then they need to do it. I am fine with moving him IF it means we add the guy we need upfront, that has always been my stance on Klein. They have to add that guy IMO, no two ways about it.
     
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    I think the best case scenario is they play McIlrath, Boyle gets fed up, they trade him half-way thru the season for a vet, right shooting forward on the last year of his contract.
     
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    Im disappointed we didnt jump on the Talbot-Hayes swap. Then we could have gotten all picks for Hagelin. But it is what it is, hopefully more is to come.
     
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    I liked Hayes also, but the issue is he was a pending RFA also, and I bet wanted 3 mill per, or close to it. If he was signed I think we would have been much more likely to make a move like that.

    At any rate, we are where we are. I think we needed to move Hags, who was getting 3.5 or more, and can be a UFA next summer. Etem can be a decent bigger 3rd line guy for us at 2.5 mill less against the cap. Now we need to add the R shot top 6 winger and move forward.
     
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    Haggerty could be someone to watch in camp too.
     
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    I'd much rather have Etem. I don't believe in Kevin's brother. I think his season last year was a fluke. I also think he's getting close to the age where if he somehow scored 20 goals here, he would want 3 million like Hagelin. Made no sense. You can probably give Etem a 3 year deal at 1.2 million. If he breaks out, then he will get paid down the line.
     
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    On the fence with Haggerty. I thought he would score more last year in the AHL. I think the Rangers really liked Klingberg with Lindberg. Klingberg is huge. I'm not sure if he went to the KHL. I hope not. I would like a 4th line of Klingberg-Moore-Lindberg.
     
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    I figure Etem falls in somewhere from 1 mill to 1.3 mill, and Hags at 3.5 or more, so we will save between 2/2.5 mill or a little more, which was badly needed for sure. That is a big plus, and maybe Etem scores 5 or 6 less goals, but isn't the PK guy Hags is of course.
     
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    Klingberg is gone...signed in the KHL.
     
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    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    7 picks in the draft, 7 left handed shots. You would think they would try to draft some right handed shots once in a while.
     
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    kreidertime Well-Known Member

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    The fact moron Brooks called Etem not as skilled as Hagelin and said he was a poor mans Hagelin shows the guy is senile and has no clue or does any research. Etem has a lot more skill and the players are absolutely nothing like each other.
     

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