Having you on ignore is a blessing. I don't even need to read your post to know it was fucking stupid. By the way, AV who you sucked off is now doing what he did to the Rangers. Having a team that can't play defense for jack shit.
Just because you curse and make vulgar comments doesn't make the nonsense you spew true. I am very good with you having me on ignore, as one of the only people who call your utter nonsense out on this board. You fill the board with crap, and no new fans join the board. What a coincidence. I know you like your little echo chamber though. The best part is, even if the Rangers were to fire Quinn, you'd be creating threads to fire the new coach after 3 or 4 months on the job anyway, just like you did with Quinn and Gorton. Rinse and repeat.
Chuck, Dump made a great point about AV. Flyers were awesome last year, just like we were first-year AV was the coach here. 9-0 loss is an embarrassment and the fact that Flyers could not stop the bleeding during the game speaks volumes. Someone mentioned on NBCSN that it was not on the goalies and I agree. You really think it is a coincidence that Quinn wasn't behind the bench and the team scored 9 goals. They were loose, there was so much ease about their game from the start. Some of it has to be on Quinn, you can't deny that.
Oh he can deny it. He's a thick headed fuck like most in our fan base who always think the GM and coach know what they are doing. 1 cup in 81 years. 3 finals. That's an organization that doesn't have a fucking clue what it's doing. AV only got to the finals because of exactly what I said which Chuck is far too stupid to understand. The team remembered how to play defense from Torts. The more time that went on away from Torts, the worse AV's teams got defensively Any stupid bastard could see that.
Yes, no doubt that last nights game, a game in which Quinn prepped the team and set the lineup and didn't know until late in the day he would be out, proved Quinn is no good and the team quit on him and Knoblauch should be the new coach. That is crystal clear after last night. Also not sure what this has to do with AV. By his last year or two we all knew he was done here. That doesn't have anything to do with Quinn. And AGAIN - the team was picked to finish 6th, the team is currently in 6th. Youngest team in the NHL. Panarin missed a few weeks. Zib was invisible until last night. Kakko and Laf have not scored. A lot has happened, but we are where we were expected to be. And that's on the heels of last season's overachieving. That doesn't matter though as it doesn't fit the narrative. I get it.
My god you guys are pathetic. Do you expect him to say we hated them, they are terrible, thank god they are not here everyday. Come on. I say again, there is no way you guys can really be Ranger fans. It just doesn't compute. Either that or your Rangers fandom is miserable because all you guys do is whine and complain non-stop.
Chuck, I won’t talk for others but I’m a ranger fan since 1961 and I see a team though young with a lot of talent and should be playing better than what it is. That’s the coaches responsibility. That doesn’t make me a fake ranger fan to want a better coach for my team. It’s been 3 years and he’s not changing. It’s time to move on!
Did the team send out a letter saying they were entering a rebuild in Feb of 2018 mel - did you expect that to be a 2 year retool? How'd the team do last year mel? Did they overachieve? Was the team picked to be 6th this season mel - meaning it was clear the team was not ready to win yet? Are we the youngest team in the NHL mel? Do we have 13 mill in dead cap space this season mel? The answers to these questions clearly paint a picture this is not on the coach, and point to a team that is going through the process, but again that doesn't fit the narrative. Fire the coach. Fire everyone.
And once again, I wouldn't even call myself a Quinn supporter as much as I'd call myself a fair fan. I don't know on Quinn yet. He might not be the right guy. Jury still out to me. I do know his teams here have not been built or ready to win yet, and it is very unfair to toss him out under those circumstances without giving him a chance to coach a team that is ready and predicted to win. That is a very reasonable approach, but doesn't work in here as the board is littered with quick fix, blame the coach for everything, fire everyone "fans".
Chuck, I don't understand this "fake fan" comment. You are pushing this narrative, but I just don't get it. We all want the Rangers to win. The way Quinn treats Gauthier is a great example, and he is one of many. Yes, Gauthier messed up with his high sticking penalties, I agree but he also scored a goal, drew penalty himself, and had a few grade-A chances. A good coach would explain it to the player, and help him, but Quinn benches him the next game. Clearly, Howden sucks, he looks like he can barely skate, but Howden plays every game. What does a healthy scratch like that do for a young talented player? That is bad coaching. I understand you bench the guy for 10 min to make a point, or for one period, but to scratch him the next game is not the best approach for developing young players. I mean they are kids. This is the reason why we dislike him. As fiery as Torts is, for the most part, I thought his benching was justified. Torts disliked Avery for example, but he played him because Avery was effective. I personally liked Torts, maybe his system doesn't produce too many cups, but at least it a system, and a system that might work, and Torts won a cup and came close a few years ago in Columbus.
I've been a die hard fan a lot longer than Chuck. Probably most here have. A true Rangers fan doesn't tolerate shitty coaching because they have lived decades watching shit and only one championship. Chuck will never grasp that until he has another 20 years of misery. I'm hoping he doesn't because I'd like to see at least more cup before I die with this team. Quinn is a terrible coach. After last year I had concerns but the team improved in some areas. The team has regressed this year. His treatment of Gauthier is despicable. He refusal to put Kakko on the first PP unit one timing it from the RW is moronic. Playing Blackwell on the first line is retarded. I'm sure Knoblauch was told exactly what lines to play. He did it because he had to. His continuing to play Smith is beyond idiotic. He is terrible. Howden is awful. Di Giushitty tries hard but has no NHL talent. You can go on and on.
A true fan doesn't blame everything on the coach and GM and Pres. A true fan doesn't start Official Fire X threads constantly. A true fan doesn't start Official Fire X threads 4 months...FOUR...after the person gets the job. Don't lecture me on what a true fan is. You just like to whine and complain non-stop and think everyone should be fired 10 minutes after walking in the door.
It also continues to be very telling that none of the fire everyone "fans" will respond to these questions.
Chuck, let me try to answer your questions again why Quinn has shown he is not the answer here. Just from your last post. 1) did the over achieve. A- no, they didn't make the playoffs and that horse and pony show in the bubble they were embarrassingly bad and booted in 3 2) 2 yr retool. A- wrong. this is year 3 of the retool 2018-19, 2019-20 and 2020-21. also, the retool gets accelerated when we get the top pick in the draft 1 yr and the 2oa in another year back to back. Also, they added top 5 player in Panarin and spent big on Trouba. They also trade for a top young defenseman in fox and look like they got another one this year in draft pick lander miller. They have a stud goalie in Igor although his constant injuries are concerning. 3) pre season pick 6. A- yes, that is correct but after watching us give game after game away to both Pitt and Philly and Boston I think this team with a better coach could compete for a playoff spot this year. The talent is here. The coaching strategy and game management is not. 4) the youngest team. A- ding ding ding yes we are 5) Dead cap space 13 mill. Yes, and it is a hindrance but there is more than enough talent on this team to be doing better. Chuck, when exactly does this overmatched coach basically with every teams coaches that we face make the adjustment or any adjustment on the PP. Kakko with his 1 timer belongs on the right with his 1 timer. That alone may change the PP's fortunes immediately. His jerking off Gautier for role players with the constant in and out of the lineup is a joke. His game to game strategy and adjustments (did I say that) seem to scream out he's coaching for his life and sees these average role players such as de g, blackwell, Rooney and the best of all Howden who trips over his one skates as a chance for an extra win and he'd be incorrect as Gautier helps him more. I wasn't thinking of knoblach replacing him although with Quinn out for a week or so with covid and the team looks anywhere near as good as they did Wednesday JD may expedite a new coach here. We are not fake fans here chuck. We are true fans who get driven crazy when we see the moves this overmatched coach makes.
This is why we end up where we are with a bunch of whiny and complaining fans. Those answers are laughable. 1. Saying we didn't overachieve last year is so comical and shows how lost and unrealistic some of the "fanbase" is. We were one of the worst teams in the NHL the year prior, were picked to be so again last season, and ended up being in shouting range of the playoffs. But no we didn't overachieve. 2. I know it has been 3 years mel, I can count, so not wrong. MY POINT is did you expect the rebuild to be 2 years and win - I am sure you and the unrealistic fans did - but reality is we were not going from the letter to back near the top in the 3rd season. Go look at the teams that have been rebuilding for years and years and years. 3. Just because you say it doesn't make it true. We were picked 6th, but the talent is here and we should be above that. Forget the experts, I'm mel and the unrealistic Ranger fans who expect a 2 year rebuild, they should be better. The talent is here, it's the coach. 4. Youngest team - ding ding is right. But who cares because I am an unrealistic fan who says they should win now, so fire the coach. 5. So what if we have 13 mill in dead space (2 very good players worth). Once again I say the talent is there, so what if they are kids who have no clue how to win in the NHL, it is here and we should be better despite all the predictions - why - because the unrealistic Ranger "fans" say so. Funny stuff - thanks for the good laughs mel.
The kids who have no clue how to win looked pretty good Wednesday under the direction of a different coach. My points weren't meant to be funny. Maybe the fact that you thought they were shows you have no idea what your looking at or talking about.
Yes, they did look good Wednesday night under the game plan and direction laid out by Quinn and his team. Just like they looked good 2 games prior when they shutout Boston. We all can pick any random game or games to make the point we want to mel. And oh they were funny alright. Essentially, I'm a whiny Rangers "fan" and I feel they have talent to win now, so it must be the coach, fire him. Forget the experts saying we are not ready, forget the youngest team in the NHL not ready to be consistent and not knowing how to win in the NHL, forget the 13 mill in dead cap space limiting the team, forget the fact that we all knew it would be a process after the letter was sent etc. Forget all of that. Wwwwaaaaahhhhh I know better. I want 2 years to rebuild and that's the way it is because I said so.
