Raptors Official Offseason Thread (Signings, trades, etc)

Rafer Alston would be a solid pick up if he'd come back here and if he played like he did on his ten day tract, he'd be a starter over Alvin. Rod Strickland also had that same impact the first few games he joined the team. Whoever we pick up I hope its one of these:

Nash, Alston, Hudson, Fisher or Knight. Knights a good defender but he's small, he will get you some steals tho.

If only we could get Peirce by packaging some guys together but still keeping VC and Bosh...

As for bigs, where's Jelani McCoy?

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting ADubb20:</div><div class="quote_post">Rafer Alston would be a solid pick up if he'd come back here and if he played like he did on his ten day tract, he'd be a starter over Alvin. Rod Strickland also had that same impact the first few games he joined the team. Whoever we pick up I hope its one of these:

Nash, Alston, Hudson, Fisher or Knight. Knights a good defender but he's small, he will get you some steals tho.

If only we could get Peirce by packaging some guys together but still keeping VC and Bosh...

As for bigs, where's Jelani McCoy?</div>

nash won't be a good pickup for the raptors with their current roster configuration. nash simply cannot guard and with backcourt mates like vince and jalen that would mean the raptor backcourt would get torched ever game especially in the guard dominated east. plus, he's 31 which is old for point guard who ages faster than any other position and has been injury prone for a long while.

 

He could be a good team defender because of his speed and Vince is defenitly not a good one on one defender but a solid team defender, Bosh is a monster shotblocker, Aroujo is a monster. This would be a good reason to use the zone. Nash has at least 4 or 5 years left and its not like hed be our last PG. We could pick one up in the future to develop. When a team is killing the zone, we just gotta put out guys like Alvin and Peterson if he's still around. A reason Nash couldn't guard could have been because he was on the Mavs, super run n' gun team. There's no reason a guy with that quickness can't guard in a non run n' gun system, however the same could be said about VC, there's no way a guy with that athleticism can't guard.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting ADubb20:</div><div class="quote_post">He could be a good team defender because of his speed and Vince is defenitly not a good one on one defender but a solid team defender, Bosh is a monster shotblocker, Aroujo is a monster. This would be a good reason to use the zone. Nash has at least 4 or 5 years left and its not like hed be our last PG. We could pick one up in the future to develop. When a team is killing the zone, we just gotta put out guys like Alvin and Peterson if he's still around. A reason Nash couldn't guard could have been because he was on the Mavs, super run n' gun team. There's no reason a guy with that quickness can't guard in a non run n' gun system, however the same could be said about VC, there's no way a guy with that athleticism can't guard.</div>


to be succinct as possible, vince and nash can't defend. araujo doesn't have the foot speed or the leaping ability to be a good defender either. vince has no heart and nash isn't strong enough to guard. zones are hugely ineffective against most nba clubs and can only be played for short periods of time. and to suggest we play zone is the acknowledgement that most guys on this team can't defend so we hide their deficiencies. thats why we have to make the watson trade to get better defenders on the club. now i must watch election 2004 coverage and hope the conservatives don't win, lates.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">araujo doesn't have the foot speed or the leaping ability to be a good defender either.</div>
yea.. but does Ben Wallace have a great leaping ability? He's got average foot speed but he doesn't have a great leaping ability and you can't dispute the fact that he is one of the top defenders in the league. If you got the fundamentals of positioning and boxing out in rebounding the ball you don't necessarily need a Vince Carter vertical.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">thats why we have to make the watson trade to get better defenders on the club</div>
Again, if that trade involves BOTH Carter and Marshall there's no way we're gonna trade them for Watson, Wells and Swift.

 

Ben Wallace has mad hops and is very quick and fast for a PF, he's one of the most athletic F-C's in the league vertical wise.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting deception:</div><div class="quote_post">nash won't be a good pickup for the raptors with their current roster configuration. nash simply cannot guard and with backcourt mates like vince and jalen that would mean the raptor backcourt would get torched ever game especially in the guard dominated east. plus, he's 31 which is old for point guard who ages faster than any other position and has been injury prone for a long while.</div>

Injury prone for a long while? In the last three years Steve has played all 82 games twice, and played 78 this past season, how is that injury prone?

I can understand the age concept though, but he still may have a good 3 years left in him.

Either way I doubt Steve Nash could come here anyway, we don't have much to offer unless we trade one of our core guys.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting thefranchise3:</div><div class="quote_post">Injury prone for a long while? In the last three years Steve has played all 82 games twice, and played 78 this past season, how is that injury prone?

I can understand the age concept though, but he still may have a good 3 years left in him.

Either way I doubt Steve Nash could come here anyway, we don't have much to offer unless we trade one of our core guys.</div>

do u have amnesia? lets examine the entire record before those years, he had years where he only played 40 and 56 games. Plus, those two years where he played 82 he platooned point guard duties with nick van exel and even this year they controlled his minutes.

 

according to espn.com, lamond murray has a player option allowing him to opt out. he might be under considerable pressure to exercise that option, and one thing we know is that murray is not short on confidence. he might think he's worrth more than the 5 million.

 

If he opts out he will be off out cap, right? It sounds good to me. However he would have been good for us but KO killed the idea that he wants back and his trade value. KO did more than just mess us up win/loss wise.

We got Sam Mitchell and with Alex English on the bench we will have excellent influences in our superstar (VC) and future superstar (CB4).

I still don't understand why you wouldn't want Nash on the team. He's all-star caliber.

If the Raptors trade the Grizz they'll be worse than the Bobcats.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting DerfZ:</div><div class="quote_post">The Raptors drafted Rafael Araujo so i guess this will be our lineup for next year:

C-Rafael (Baby) Araujo
PF-Chris Bosh
SF-Jalen Rose
SG-Vince Carter
PG- FA Signing.. Hopefully Nash or Hudson

Bench
Donyell Marshall (6th man)
Alvin Williams
Lamond Murray
Morris Peterson
Jerome Moiso
Mason Jr.
FA Centre</div>

actually they would probably have bosh as 6th cause they wanted to do that last year becasue he played better off the bench but the didnt have a center so hey started him buy they pproabbly will start the season with marshall and bosh startin

as for free agents the toronro sun has reported that toronto has interest in hudson and fisher. as for nash i doubt that they will get him but they have a edge because hes canadian and he mite wanna play in canada

 

wat trade with the grizzles

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting thedude9990:</div><div class="quote_post">actually they would probably have bosh as 6th cause they wanted to do that last year becasue he played better off the bench but the didnt have a center so hey started him buy they pproabbly will start the season with marshall and bosh startin

as for free agents the toronro sun has reported that toronto has interest in hudson and fisher. as for nash i doubt that they will get him but they have a edge because hes canadian and he mite wanna play in canada</div>
No way, Marshall would never start over Bosh, Bosh is 10 times better defensively, and you don't want to halt his development by playing him off the bench.
Marshall is a 31 year old man, he better get used to it.

 

Thats Wat They Said Last Year When They Were Tring To Get Rose They Said That They Shouldnt Do It Cause Bosh Is Better As A 6th Man Cause He Plays With More Energy Off The Bench........can Some One Please Explain Wat Trade With The Grizlles

 

Their isn't an actual trade, it was a proposition by deception

 

What free agents suit the Raptors

Who do u think the raptors should go after in this offseason? Why do u think that??

i think we need to make some big moves this off season, hopefully Pete Babcock really helps get some good players here. I think we need a good pg, that should be our #1 signing, then i think go after a center, maybe Mark Blount or somebody that can get the job done. Aroujo needs time, he can't just come in and play, so sign a center. I also think we need to get a player that is a good shooter. David Albrige of espn, says Jamal Crawford would be good for the raptors cause he is a great score, and will also fill the hole of pg. Maybe Steve Nash will be avaiable, or derek fisher, maybe troy Hudson. i hope Sam mitchell and help the progress of bosh, and maybe even Mosio.

I hope the raps make some important moves this off season that help the team.

<font color="Red">Don't make anymore duplicate threads, this topic belongs in the offseason thread.
-thefranchise3</font>

 

I think we could keep this in the off-season thread

I guess it'll get merged or something so:

We need a PG that can run the ball and some big men with good court speed. Jamal Crawford is definately not an answer to our PG problems and is said to be getting offered something like a 6 year 37 million dollar deal.

People need to drop the Nash thing, not trying to be negative, but we arent getting Nash and even if we did he isn't going to suddenly change the face of the whole team, remember he's 31 and we don't have the dough.

Mark Blount is really filirting with Miami, and sources have said Jim O'Brien might want him in Philly, he's very concerned about his contract, especially the length, and I still see Miami as the top team in the Blount race.

I'm also not too high on Derek Fisher, but he could be decent.

Brian Skinner - good big man that can run the floor very well
Hudson - could help, has the speed but is more of a scorer

I've posted others before but those 2 would be good.

 

Who do you guys all want as a PG free agent pick listed top 3?

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting ADubb20:</div><div class="quote_post">Who do you guys all want as a PG free agent pick listed top 3?</div>

I would like to see:

Nash- but that is unlikely

Troy Hudson- i think we can get him

Derek Fisher- Great shot

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting raptor_dc:</div><div class="quote_post">I would like to see:

Nash- but that is unlikely

Troy Hudson- i think we can get him

Derek Fisher- Great shot</div>

I've posted an article saying that Troy Hudson is expected to sign back with Minnesota or head to Utah, so I highly doubt hes coming to the Raptors.