<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GrizzFanTaylor @ Jun 5 2007, 09:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, but on the clip you showed, Ray Allen had stolen the ball from Kobe, so he pretty much just was getting even with Ray.</div>http://youtube.com/watch?v=g5F8L2DN4a4There, goddamnit. It's from the same game too.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ChuckTheD @ Jun 6 2007, 03:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>http://youtube.com/watch?v=g5F8L2DN4a4There, goddamnit. It's from the same game too.</div>Off topic, but what song is that?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (dsounG @ Jun 6 2007, 09:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Off topic, but what song is that?</div>Get Ya Umbrellas Out by Chamillionaire off Mixtape Messiah 2.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ChuckTheD @ Jun 6 2007, 04:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>http://youtube.com/watch?v=g5F8L2DN4a4There, goddamnit. It's from the same game too.</div>It was obviously a foul, look at Kobe's reaction, you can tell they called a foul on Kobe.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ Jun 6 2007, 08:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Get Ya Umbrellas Out by Chamillionaire off Mixtape Messiah 2.</div>But the original beat is from AZ-The Format produced by DJ Premier.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Jun 7 2007, 05:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It was obviously a foul, look at Kobe's reaction, you can tell they called a foul on Kobe.</div>All I saw was Kobe hyped up after the play. Even if they called the foul on Mihm, it was a clean block anyway.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LakersFan247 @ Jun 7 2007, 08:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>All I saw was Kobe hyped up after the play. Even if they called the foul on Mihm, it was a clean block anyway.</div>It was a foul on Kobe
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Jun 7 2007, 05:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It was a foul on Kobe</div>Oh...alright. Hey everyone, PFF said it himself that it was a foul...just go ahead and disregard any visual footage etc. you might have against that.It was clearly a clean block on Kobe's part.BTW here is some more: http://youtube.com/watch?v=NSToE8pCoS0
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lakers4Life24/7 @ Jun 5 2007, 07:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This just gives me a better reason to not like Ray.</div>Your hating on Ray Allen because he was right? It's not like he said this would happen and it never did. Kobe actually ended up doing what Ray said he would, so why you would hate on Ray for that I don't understand even if you are huge Kobe homer.
Kobe's "selfishness"? That's why Kobe is the best player in the game and why "unselfish" "loyal to the team" players like Ray allen and KG continue to sink in mediocrity.Thank god kobe opened his mouth. The lakers don't deserve a player like kobe. The man is the best perimeter player ever behind jordan and is in his prime and were ignoring him (using him to sell tickets) to build around Benjamin benoit?I'm sick of the FO.. I hope Jerry buss sells the lakers. He and his son are destroying the lakers.edit: Actually, this is laughable. We have some laker fans on other forums chosing Bynum over kobe? My goodness, when kobe ditches the lakers to sign with the bulls and wins multiple rings I'll be telling them "I told you so". Can you imagine in chicago, kobe will have a real pg who can distrubute and play defense, a swingman who can actually create for himself, a real shotblocking precense and a coach who Coaches defense?RINGS
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Melo061 @ Jun 8 2007, 07:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Kobe's "selfishness"? That's why Kobe is the best player in the game and why "unselfish" "loyal to the team" players like Ray allen and KG continue to sink in mediocrity.Thank god kobe opened his mouth. The lakers don't deserve a player like kobe. The man is the best perimeter player ever behind jordan and is in his prime and were ignoring him (using him to sell tickets) to build around Benjamin benoit?I'm sick of the FO.. I hope Jerry buss sells the lakers. He and his son are destroying the lakers.edit: Actually, this is laughable. We have some laker fans on other forums chosing Bynum over kobe? My goodness, when kobe ditches the lakers to sign with the bulls and wins multiple rings I'll be telling them "I told you so". Can you imagine in chicago, kobe will have a real pg who can distrubute and play defense, a swingman who can actually create for himself, a real shotblocking precense and a coach who Coaches defense?RINGS</div>Melo, I hate to say this. But after reading this, you are more of a Kobe fan boy than a Laker fan. :no1:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LakersFan247 @ Jun 9 2007, 05:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Melo, I hate to say this. But after reading this, you are more of a Kobe fan boy than a Laker fan. :no1:</div>Nope. I'm still a laker fan. But I'm also a kobe fan. Were not going to win rings with kobe, that's quite obvious. The front office simply are whacko.Also, I'm an nba fan first off. Kobe is simply the most skilled player ever. If this team isn't going to help him then for our sake and his, let him be traded. The lakers are using him and it's disgusting to see.I guess I'm more grateful to a guy who has saved the lakers seasons two seasons in a row.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Melo061 @ Jun 8 2007, 05:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Nope. I'm still a laker fan. But I'm also a kobe fan. Were not going to win rings with kobe, that's quite obvious. The front office simply are whacko.Also, I'm an nba fan first off. Kobe is simply the most skilled player ever. If this team isn't going to help him then for our sake and his, let him be traded. The lakers are using him and it's disgusting to see.I guess I'm more grateful to a guy who has saved the lakers seasons two seasons in a row.</div>It has nothing to do with being grateful. It doesn't matter how the FO is acting. Regardless, Kobe has to neck it out, or just vent his frustrations behind closed doors. After his post-playoff interview...that was fine. But his trade demands really ticked me off. I am a Laker fan, and it's about the name on the front of the jersey, not the back. If Kobe did leave, I would not cheer for him...I know that for sure.
The only thing that has ticked me off is his flip floppping. The actual trade demand didn't faze me. If the lakers aren't going to help him then they dont deserve him. I do not want another kg situation here, when a superstar keeps queit whilst the inept Front office does nothing. If things aren't working and no-one wants to change it then blow the team up and start fresh. We've made moves that simply haven't added up and have no continuity.Also, I hate these insuniations of homerism and saying "I'm a fan of the lakers, not kobe". For a while, there hasn't been a team. Kobe has been our team. He has literally saved the lakers ass, both winning wise (making the playoffs) and money wise. I guess you like front office using him but I don't. I'll say this again. If they aint going to help, Trade him this offseason to a team that will. Don't say "well were going to be half assed at making this team better" but we won't trade you. Now who's really selfish?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Melo061 @ Jun 8 2007, 05:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The only thing that has ticked me off is his flip floppping. The actual trade demand didn't faze me. If the lakers aren't going to help him then they dont deserve him. I do not want another kg situation here, when a superstar keeps queit whilst the inept Front office does nothing. If things aren't working and no-one wants to change it then blow the team up and start fresh. We've made moves that simply haven't added up and have no continuity.Also, I hate these insuniations of homerism and saying "I'm a fan of the lakers, not kobe". For a while, there hasn't been a team. Kobe has been our team. He has literally saved the lakers ass, both winning wise (making the playoffs) and money wise. I guess you like front office using him but I don't. I'll say this again. If they aint going to help, Trade him this offseason to a team that will. Don't say "well were going to be half assed at making this team better" but we won't trade you. Now who's really selfish?</div>As if they aren't trying to help him....the front office wants to win just as much as Kobe. Now, with Kobe on their backs about building around him now, instead of some long-term plan (thank god). Surely something will be done to not only turn the franchise around, but to keep Kobe here as well.
Yes, they are not helping him win. They pass up trades to hold onto some plan which was just a fantasy. Horrible MLE signings. Horrible drafting for atleast 5 years now. Imo, it's all about money. Winning isn't their main priority anymore. Kobe sells tickets, he makes money for them. The lakers are using kobe untill they can pry Bron to laker land. Kobe finally understood what's up.Also, lol @ front office trying to win just as much kobe. That's why they are in love with Bynum and considered him untouchable even though he hasn't shown crap. That's why they keep surrounding kobe with scrubs like Smush parker and Brian cook. Infact, name me 3 moves in the last 3 years which have helped the lakers?I can name one. Ronny turiaf being drafted. That's about it.Remember this. It's all about the money.
I will be cheering kobe where he goes. He isn't my favourite player because he plays for the lakers. He is my favourite player because I love watching him play basketball. Him playing with the lakers just makes it better. But if he leaves, good luck on him.
