Re: READ THIS NOW and tell me this isn't a sign! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 3 2006, 12:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>These guys wont be anything more than solid IMO. None of them have huge potentials, and I'm guessing you've been drinking too much Celtics brand Kool-Aid.</div>LOL I respect your opinion, but to say Gerald Green or Al Jefferson don't have potential to be real good players, then you havn't seen them any more than the 4 games a year we play the Raptors. Also, Delonte is solid NOW, and no way he's getting any worse.
Re: READ THIS NOW and tell me this isn't a sign! Delonte will be a solid PG but not anything to write home about. He doesnt have huge potential, and he will be good but not great or an all star as some make him out to be.Al hasnt shown anything yet and I'm starting to believe that he will be a dud only good for rebounding, until he shows me something offensively. Gerald has only shown me how raw he is. Nothing has impressed me with him, other then the dunks. He is a very poor defender, knows nothing offensively yet, bad shooter, bad fundamentals. He could be a star, but I doubt it.
Re: READ THIS NOW and tell me this isn't a sign! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 2 2006, 09:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Delonte will be a solid PG but not anything to write home about. He doesnt have huge potential, and he will be good but not great or an all star as some make him out to be.Al hasnt shown anything yet and I'm starting to believe that he will be a dud only good for rebounding, until he shows me something offensively. Gerald has only shown me how raw he is. Nothing has impressed me with him, other then the dunks. He is a very poor defender, knows nothing offensively yet, bad shooter, bad fundamentals. He could be a star, but I doubt it.</div>It never ceases to amaze me how little you know about the stuff you talk about.
Re: READ THIS NOW and tell me this isn't a sign! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Jul 2 2006, 11:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>dude, you have no clue!!</div>enough said
Re: READ THIS NOW and tell me this isn't a sign! What the hell would the Sixers get in return? I think half the people who believe in the rumors haven't taken a good look at the Celtics roster. The only way the trade would be going down is if Paul Pierce is involved. Billy King's an idiot, but not mentally retarded.
Re: READ THIS NOW and tell me this isn't a sign! Okay I know we will never get = vlaue for AI, but some people are underrating how much this guys is worth. People think just, because the Sixers wanna rebuild they should trade him for less then a young guy who can be a all star, and other stuff. And Billy King is stupid enough to except a trade like that. That was why I, and most other Philly fans wanted him fired either way. Because he can't put the right guys around AI, and you can't really trust him to rebuild.This team is pathetic I still can't believe Billy King was not fired.
Re: READ THIS NOW and tell me this isn't a sign! I would love to see Ai and Peirce. The Truth and The Answear on one team. I mean you can't not say playoff bound.
Re: READ THIS NOW and tell me this isn't a sign! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DRob-50-Forever @ Jul 3 2006, 01:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It never ceases to amaze me how little you know about the stuff you talk about.</div>It's funny that you just say stuppid things to me, but you never back them up at all. You are probably a Kool Aid drinker too, but come on man, it's the Truth. None of your young guys will be really good. Gerald has potential, but I seriously doubt it because his skill set is basically dunking over people and driving. Not that that's a bad thing, but he doesnt have much to his basketball repertoire.
Re: READ THIS NOW and tell me this isn't a sign! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 3 2006, 12:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Delonte will be a solid PG but not anything to write home about. He doesnt have huge potential, and he will be good but not great or an all star as some make him out to be.Al hasnt shown anything yet and I'm starting to believe that he will be a dud only good for rebounding, until he shows me something offensively. Gerald has only shown me how raw he is. Nothing has impressed me with him, other then the dunks. He is a very poor defender, knows nothing offensively yet, bad shooter, bad fundamentals. He could be a star, but I doubt it.</div>Lets see...I think Al can score better than he can reboundd.He averaged 42 ppg in HS. And dont give me crap about that competition sucks. Because 42 ppg anywhere is amazing. He has a great offensive talent. You obviously know nothing about Gerald Green.
Re: READ THIS NOW and tell me this isn't a sign! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 3 2006, 11:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It's funny that you just say stuppid things to me, but you never back them up at all. You are probably a Kool Aid drinker too, but come on man, it's the Truth. None of your young guys will be really good. Gerald has potential, but I seriously doubt it because his skill set is basically dunking over people and driving. Not that that's a bad thing, but he doesnt have much to his basketball repertoire.</div>God. I've figured it out, you're just a plain f*cking hater. BC there's no way anyone can just be so oblivious to the young talent Boston has. Gerald's style is just dunking on people and dricing?? LMAO that just shows how little you know. Gerald actually depends on his outside shot alot. He gets dunks on fastbreaks. oh, and he's a bad shooter? get real you f*cking retard. And Al Jefferson has some of the purest most refined post moves i've evr seen in a young player. If he gets smarter on the other side of the court, he'll be a hell of a player.Seriously, you need to stop bullshitting, you're routine is getting old.
Re: READ THIS NOW and tell me this isn't a sign! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kingjamez @ Jul 3 2006, 01:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Lets see...I think Al can score better than he can reboundd.He averaged 42 ppg in HS. And dont give me crap about that competition sucks. Because 42 ppg anywhere is amazing. He has a great offensive talent. You obviously know nothing about Gerald Green.</div>I'm not talking about high school. That was all raw. He only has two valid skills in the NBA. Don't even try to prove me wrong..
Re: READ THIS NOW and tell me this isn't a sign! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 3 2006, 01:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm not talking about high school. That was all raw. He only has two valid skills in the NBA. Don't even try to prove me wrong..</div>What are his two valid skills.
Re: READ THIS NOW and tell me this isn't a sign! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nba dogmatist @ Jul 3 2006, 02:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>God. I've figured it out, you're just a plain f*cking hater. BC there's no way anyone can just be so oblivious to the young talent Boston has. Gerald's style is just dunking on people and dricing?? LMAO that just shows how little you know. Gerald actually depends on his outside shot alot. He gets dunks on fastbreaks. oh, and he's a bad shooter? get real you f*cking retard. And Al Jefferson has some of the purest most refined post moves i've evr seen in a young player. If he gets smarter on the other side of the court, he'll be a hell of a player.Seriously, you need to stop bullshitting, you're routine is getting old.</div>.300 isnt good 3 point shooting for a guard. He has an inconsistent jumper too. What else does he really do besides dunk on people and drive? He is still very raw..Al Jefferson hasnt shown anything on offense quite frankly..He will be a decent Forward, but average as well is my guess because the ceiling is beginning to lower on him I think. I havnt seen anything from him yet and I doubt he will win MIP next year too..And also, I find it funny that if I called someone a f*cking retard I would probably get suspended, or atleast demoted. But because you only say it to me, nothing happens..<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kingjamez @ Jul 3 2006, 02:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What are his two valid skills. </div>Driving and dunking.
Re: READ THIS NOW and tell me this isn't a sign! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 3 2006, 01:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>.300 isnt good 3 point shooting for a guard. He has an inconsistent jumper too. What else does he really do besides dunk on people and drive? He is still very raw..Al Jefferson hasnt shown anything on offense quite frankly..He will be a decent Forward, but average as well is my guess because the ceiling is beginning to lower on him I think. I havnt seen anything from him yet and I doubt he will win MIP next year too..And also, I find it funny that if I called someone a f*cking retard I would probably get suspended, or atleast demoted. But because you only say it to me, nothing happens..Driving and dunking.</div>Considering Green played virtually none before the end of the season. I don't care what the stats say. He didnt have much of an opprotunity to prove to you he can shoot, so the stats don't even matter.*He took 20 3 point shots in the entire year.Al Jefferson has all the tools, he has the moves. I cant even believe you would say, he's raw and all he can do is dunk on people. Jefferson has had health issues over his short career. So that has alot to do with Playing time, and stats, and progression. The guy is 21, so don't say his ceiling is getting shorter. He has a world of potential, yet he's already so developed offensively.
Re: READ THIS NOW and tell me this isn't a sign! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 2 2006, 09:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Delonte will be a solid PG but not anything to write home about. He doesnt have huge potential, and he will be good but not great or an all star as some make him out to be.Al hasnt shown anything yet and I'm starting to believe that he will be a dud only good for rebounding, until he shows me something offensively. Gerald has only shown me how raw he is. Nothing has impressed me with him, other then the dunks. He is a very poor defender, knows nothing offensively yet, bad shooter, bad fundamentals. He could be a star, but I doubt it.</div>Ok I will take the time to tear apart your post if that's what you want. Big Al has shown that he can be and will be a very solid offensive post player. His low post foot work for his age is amazing. He has great hands, get the ball to him in the low post and he WILL score. It's kind of hard for him to show you anything when, by your post, you have shown that you have never seen him play. I'm not 100% sure Jefferson will turn into a perennial all-star, but will be a very good post player if given the mintues. His D is already pretty solid and you already said he is a good rebounder. He has good size and strength and has just been sidelined by injuries. Ainge said he has been working hard and droped some weight so I expect some good things from him this season. Now on to inform you about Green so next time you make a post about Gerald Green you won't sound so ignorant. Green is an insane athlete. Bad shooter? Ha, not even gonna bother with that. Ofcourse he isn't the best defender yet, he has played in 32 NBA games averaging like 12 mpg. With his athletic ability and work ethic(which has been praised ever since he came into the league) he can become a great perimiter defender. He has good ball handling skills, good size, and can play the 2 or the 3. He has already shown he isn't afraid to take big shots. And about his dunks, people wanna see that, it sells tickets, just another quality he has has. He will be a star, your just butt hurt about that dunk on the Raps. Oh well, thats something he can work on, maturity, why, because he is only 19 years old. There you go kid, now you have some info on what you were talking about.
Re: READ THIS NOW and tell me this isn't a sign! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kingjamez @ Jul 3 2006, 02:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Considering Green played virtually none before the end of the season. I don't care what the stats say. He didnt have much of an opprotunity to prove to you he can shoot, so the stats don't even matter.*He took 20 3 point shots in the entire year.Al Jefferson has all the tools, he has the moves. I cant even believe you would say, he's raw and all he can do is dunk on people. Jefferson has had health issues over his short career. So that has alot to do with Playing time, and stats, and progression. The guy is 21, so don't say his ceiling is getting shorter. He has a world of potential, yet he's already so developed offensively.</div>When you take less shots, your percentages should be higher, not lower. Dont feed me that bull sh*t. .300 is below average for a guard in this league. Maybe he can improve his shooting, but it's not there yet.When the hell did I say that? Health issues? Is that my problem, thats his problem. He's not developed offensively obviously because he averages 8 points a game. That is bull sh*t. If he were a great player, he would get more time, but he hasnt shown me sh*t yet. So all the "young talent" you guys have doesnt impress other fans than you guys actually..
Re: READ THIS NOW and tell me this isn't a sign! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 3 2006, 12:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>.300 isnt good 3 point shooting for a guard. He has an inconsistent jumper too. What else does he really do besides dunk on people and drive? He is still very raw..Al Jefferson hasnt shown anything on offense quite frankly..He will be a decent Forward, but average as well is my guess because the ceiling is beginning to lower on him I think. I havnt seen anything from him yet and I doubt he will win MIP next year too..And also, I find it funny that if I called someone a f*cking retard I would probably get suspended, or atleast demoted. But because you only say it to me, nothing happens..Driving and dunking.</div>you're judging this on the two games you saw Gerald play vs. Toronto. In the june awards, i think we should add most ignorant member, i think you'd be a lock. seriously, you obviously know absolutely nothing about him. His mid-range jumper is one of his strong points, but i guess you wouldn't know that. .300 is from him playing about a month in the season and not shooting very many 3's. And since when does being raw affect your potential? As for Al Jefferson, please stop. He has shown nothing offensively? That's almsot all that he has shown!! Last year in the playoffs, Al Jefferson was burning JERMAINE O'NEAL left and right, so after that he immediately got doubled right when he got the ball. He has some of the best post moves i've ever seen in a young player.you wouldn't get suspended for calling someone a f*cking retard, don't be childish.seriously, just stop bullshitting. Gerald's only skills are driving and dunking? oh please, that is SO ignorant. If you haven't noticed, he almost depends on his jumper too much. He excells in iso situations bc his pull up jumper is so nice. if you want to get owned some more, we can keep talking about this, but i suggest you stop.
Re: READ THIS NOW and tell me this isn't a sign! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 3 2006, 01:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>When you take less shots, your percentages should be higher, not lower. Dont feed me that bull sh*t. .300 is below average for a guard in this league. Maybe he can improve his shooting, but it's not there yet.When the hell did I say that? Health issues? Is that my problem, thats his problem. He's not developed offensively obviously because he averages 8 points a game. That is bull sh*t. If he were a great player, he would get more time, but he hasnt shown me sh*t yet. So all the "young talent" you guys have doesnt impress other fans than you guys actually..</div>Everyone goes on a 8-20 shooting slump..lmfao. If he took 1 3 point shot, and he missed it, you would say he sucked too. I'm positive Ray Allen or Reggie Miller went on a 8-20 shooting slump..my godAl played 18 minutes a game!! 8 points every 18 minutes is pretty damn good
Re: READ THIS NOW and tell me this isn't a sign! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DRob-50-Forever @ Jul 3 2006, 02:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ok I will take the time to tear apart your post if that's what you want. Big Al has shown that he can be and will be a very solid offensive post player. His low post foot work for his age is amazing. He has great hands, get the ball to him in the low post and he WILL score. It's kind of hard for him to show you anything when, by your post, you have shown that you have never seen him play. I'm not 100% sure Jefferson will turn into a perennial all-star, but will be a very good post player if given the mintues. His D is already pretty solid and you already said he is a good rebounder. He has good size and strength and has just been sidelined by injuries. Ainge said he has been working hard and droped some weight so I expect some good things from him this season. Now on to inform you about Green so next time you make a post about Gerald Green you won't sound so ignorant. Green is an insane athlete. Bad shooter? Ha, not even gonna bother with that. Ofcourse he isn't the best defender yet, he has played in 32 NBA games averaging like 12 mpg. With his athletic ability and work ethic(which has been praised ever since he came into the league) he can become a great perimiter defender. He has good ball handling skills, good size, and can play the 2 or the 3. He has already shown he isn't afraid to take big shots. And about his dunks, people wanna see that, it sells tickets, just another quality he has has. He will be a star, your just butt hurt about that dunk on the Raps. Oh well, thats something he can work on, maturity, why, because he is only 19 years old. There you go kid, now you have some info on what you were talking about.</div>I havnt seen anything from him yet. He is only 21, but he hasnt shown me results at all. By the 3rd season if he doesnt prove anything, I am sure that he won't amount to much. You say all these great things about him, but he averages 8 and 5. So what? LMAO, a great perimeter defender? LMFAO. He is about the worst defender in the League right now, and your saying he can be one of the best? Sorry, but you can tell who will be good defenders and who wont be. If it was so easy to teach defense, he would be a great defender already. Good size? So I guess Shawn Bradley was a great player because of his size. Dont feed me bull sh*t traits like that. He can play the 2 or the 3. Another ignorant statement. That doesnt show how he is a good player. Any 6"7 guy who can run can play the 2 or the 3. It doesnt mean sh*t. Unless he shows me more to his skill set, I wont show him any respect. Oh yeah, Im still upset about that dunk. I dont give a sh*t. We will finish ahead of you guys next year, unless you magically trade Gerald Green, Ryan Gomes and Rajon Rando for Allen Iverson and someone else.
Re: READ THIS NOW and tell me this isn't a sign! <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 3 2006, 12:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>When you take less shots, your percentages should be higher, not lower. Dont feed me that bull sh*t. .300 is below average for a guard in this league. Maybe he can improve his shooting, but it's not there yet.When the hell did I say that? Health issues? Is that my problem, thats his problem. He's not developed offensively obviously because he averages 8 points a game. That is bull sh*t. If he were a great player, he would get more time, but he hasnt shown me sh*t yet. So all the "young talent" you guys have doesnt impress other fans than you guys actually..</div>why do you keep saying "hasn't shown me"? You see these guys probably 2 or 3 times a year when they play the raps.You're shooting percentage doesn't necessarily have to be higher, especially when it's your first 20 3's of your career. and again for al jefferson, like kingjames said, he has had health problems, and that really has affected his performance. "that's his problem" well, no sh*t that is his problem, but you were saying he hasn't shown anything and used his 8 ppg as a reason. No one said he was great right now, and again the injuries take a toll. no, the "young talent" we have doesn't impress the haters. Have you seen around this board how many people see the young talent they have? Come on, you're just being oblivious.