Real issue I'm dealing with - atheism vs judaism

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  1. ABM

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    Call him converted....Christian...whatever you'd like, but Paul was still always a Jew. He certainly wasn't a Gentile.

    Acts 26:1-23


    and.........

    Philippians 3:1-14
     
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    Lolwut?!
     
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    So you are saying God is choosing them just to send them to hell. That is a terrible god.
     
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    Quoting your little book does not make him a Jew
     
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    God chose Jews to be his messengers....both, of the Law and the Gospel. Nonetheless, he's given us "all" free will to choose him......or not.
     
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    No the Jew that doesn't accept Jesus is a terrible son
     
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    I choose to believe that it does. At this point, we'll simply have to agree to disagree.
     
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    If they were chosen people but also don't believe in Jesus then ipso facto god chose them to go to hell.
     
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    That's okay because Paul's own testimony is good enough. But you go ahead and try and say all proof is only in that little book.

    And why are you acting all pompous anyway? I mean you are of a faith that accepts atheism. Total contradiction.
     
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    But the Jew that chooses Jesus is not a Jew and therefore no longer chosen. To remain chosen, he/she must remain a Jew, and Jews go to hell.
     
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    All people have the grace. It doesn't matter if you are chosen or not. You are living from the Old Testament
     
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    Wait you said a Jew is a nationality. A culture. Now you say it isn't? Well shit bro; how can you be a Jew and atheist then?! Lmao!!!
     
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    I think it's important that we've established that Christians know more about being a Jew than Jews know about being a Jew.
     
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    Fair, but that is the second time you brought those words as your proof to a Jew. I understand that works for you, but you understand it does not hold water for either a secular Jew or a religious Jew.

    But yes, I'm ok with the disagreement.
     
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    Seems that way
     
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    I have not changed one bit. Your thickness is not my fault.
     
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    Ok, thanks for clearing that up.
     
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    Pot meet kettle
     
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    God may have originally "chosen" the Jews to carry out his work, to be blessed by Him, but obedience was still involved. Shoot, even Moses himself never got to see the promised land due to disobedience. Even still, there will always be a Jewish remnant. It's a big reason why so many have deep interest/concern for Israel.

    http://jewishroots.net/library/miscellaneous/the_jewish_remnant.html





    This was interesting about 1/2 way down the article...

    http://www.ldolphin.org/Remn.html

     
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    Why do those Amish looking Jews carry those bags of diamonds around?
     

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