Trade Idea Realistic trade options for summer of 2023

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  1. CJ_is_Gone

    CJ_is_Gone Well-Known Member

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    That feels like it makes a lot of sense for both teams.
     
  2. Pinwheel1

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    I agree with those who said Brown only makes sense if we keep Dame. He will not resign without him. And yes I realize the chance of getting Brown without sending Dame to Boston is not good.
     
  3. SharpesTriumph

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    Right, I get that argument, I just don't think that's the right approach to a Dame trade. The Blazers should trade Dame to rebuild slow and for the long term. If they are planning to win soon then keep Dame.

    If trading Dame; the Blazers would also try to bottom out for a few years to improve their own picks while Ant/Shae develop their games as leaders of the offense. Brown may push those Blazer teams into the playoffs so their own picks become less valuable, plus he might get in the way of Ant/Shae development.

    Brown will be 27 when the season start and if we're targeting 3-7+ year window then he'll be 30-34. No he isn't too old, but I'd say he's not on the ideal timeline.

    The Blazers wouldn't receive as many picks back, or might even have to send out picks. Picks are like currency to a future winning team, so the rebuild would have less assets in a few years to pivot when they want to contend.

    Browns supermax contract will limit the Blazers adding other talent or adding deadweight contracts to grab extra picks.

    Finally Brown is unlikely to be happy with a longer term rebuild around Sharpe; so even if hypothetically he was accepting of becoming a Blazer initially when Dame left, its very likely he would ask out in the following years.
     
  4. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I'm not sure.... it would be his team and I think we could actually put enough talent around him to be a playoff team. It would depend on where our pick ends up, and what we could potentially get for Simons/Nurk. Can you imagine a scenario where we get Wemby, re-sign Grant, trade Dame for Brown and then package Nurk/Simons for another quality player.

    ??
    Sharpe
    Brown
    Grant
    Wemby

    Or you keep Simons and let him play his natural position.

    Simons
    Sharpe
    Brown
    Grant
    Wemby

    That's an intriguing lineup.
     
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    I like it but Grant probably would not re-sign either if Dame was gone. I would love to get Brown, but he comes with a huge risk. I would still
    make them an offer for him though, without Dame/SS being included.
     
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  6. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    We can offer Grant the most money, so if the team was still competitive even without Dame, I think he would consider staying. Not sure if we'd want to keep him though.
     
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    If we get Wemby how about just keep Dame?

    Dame
    Ant - Sharpe
    Grant - MLE Free agent
    Wemby
    Nurk

    Thats a pretty killer team. Or yes flip Ant+Nurk+picks for one of Brown/Siakam/etc.

    I just don't see the point of adding Brown but losing Dame regardless of context. If we're trying to win now then keep Dame. Brown's too good for anything but winning now.

    Normally I rank Sharpe as the most valuable Blazer since he is on a rookie contract, so young, and so much room to improve. But acquiring Brown plus another potential star in Wemby is one of the few scenarios along with Giannis where I might prefer to hold Dame and send out Sharpe.
     
  8. Mediocre Man

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    Wouldn’t it be better for our future if we had both Wemby and Sharpe than a year or two with Wemby and Dame
     
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    I wouldn't look to trade Sharpe if we got Wemby, agreed they could be a great duo.

    It was more of a strange tangent on a hypothetical if we have Jaylen Brown and Wemby with the rest of our roster; I might prefer Dame over Sharpe since the team could legit contend next season.

    Wemby and Sharpe are not as certain as Giannis/Embiid/ and to a bit lesser extent Dame or Jaylen Brown. So if we can legit contend next year with a few of these superstars that would probably be the only type of situation I might listen to Sharpe trade ideas.
     
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    Jaylen Brown made one of the All NBA teams. Because of this, he is eligible for a super max deal. 5 years, 295 million dollars. Food for thought while discussing trading for him potentially.
     
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    You could only do that if you get an extension done with Brown.
     
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    Siakam played a lot of 5 for Toronto last season. I wouldn't mind having him as a C and Wemby at the 4. They are interchangeable. You wouldn't be able to leave anyone because your entire lineup can shoot really well. Also defensively? That would kill.
     
  13. PtldPlatypus

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    All this Brown talk, and then KAT talk, I have to wonder if there's a scenario that exists in which the Blazers deal for both. Dame for Brown and Ant for KAT, with other pieces involved to make it make sense for everyone.
     
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    Jaylen is out the door regardless of what happens to Boston. The more I think about him joining Dame and Sharpe and Grant, the more I like it.

    I am fearful that Atlanta ends up trying to trade Trae Young for Jalen Brown. There will be other teams trying for him and Siakam.
     
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    Houston wants Brown as well
     
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    Brown will dictate where he plays next season. He's an all nba player who will be a UFA after next season and can sign a supermax extension. No one will spend what he's worth unless they know he's staying with them. I'm not saying he's coming here... just saying he'll get to choose where he goes if he goes anywhere.
     
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    Ok
     
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    Does this mean boston can offer him more than any other team? like more years and/or more $$ per year?
     
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    It’s possible, though I’ve always assumed that a Dame trade scenario involves lots of picks and young players and not trying to compete immediately.
     
  20. PtldPlatypus

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    I have as well, but then I wonder if that assumption is necessarily valid. I mean, if we can somehow reset our timeline to include multiple all-star players in their mid-twenties without sacrificing any of the lottery talent we already have, it seems like that could be a realistic shot at contention sooner rather than later. Let's say we get #2 and plan to draft Scoot, then arrange to deal Dame/Ant for Brown/KAT. How long would it take for a Scoot/Sharpe/Brown/Grant/KAT core to develop into something formidable?
     

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