Redd got no Votes for Most Improved?

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  1. gmanspack

    gmanspack JBB JustBBall Member

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    I don't understand that at all.

    15.1 PPG to 21.7 can't buy you a single vote? What the heck were the voters thinking. At least he's still playing, unlike Randolph and Boozer.
     
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    Yeah it really is a shame even Posey got votes while he didn't.
     
  3. Mez

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    Redd did get votes, but it wasn't much though. Michael Redd got 9 first place votes, 12 second place votes and 14 3rd place votes to give him a total of 95 points. I really wanted him to win it this year, going from a sixth man to an all-star is an amazing accomplishment. Zach did great this season, so I'm not necessarily disappointed that Redd didn't win it, but Redd coming in 5th place was a shock.
     
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    Actually, he did get a vote. He even got more than just 1. He had 9 1st place votes 12 for 2nd 14 for 3rd and a total of 95 points but I would have like him to have gotten more votes than that.
     
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    My take on the whole most improved award:

    Zach Randolph and Redd weren't most improved players, they shouldn't be candidates because of course the likely improved in the summer but their statistical change is due to minutes.
    Tmac going from Toronto to Orlando didn't jut improve in minutes but improved statistically. This year the only guy's I would say improved were:
    Erick Dampier
    James Posey
    Lamar Odom, the work he put in to become a PF was spectacular.
    Joe Johnson
    Brian Cardinal
    Mark Blount
    Q-Rich a little
    Flip Murray, he improved a little, but he was already lighting up in practice and summer league last year.
    Yao improved slightly but his offensive rebounding and blocking could have been better.
    Manu Ginobili
    Jason Williams
    Marcus Camby
    and Raja Bell



    The rest of the guys made slight imprvements, but just got more minutes or produced about the same with less minutes. Randolph, Boozer, Redd, Mason, Magloire, Dalmbert, Arroyo, Artest, Maggette, Dunleavy, Tayshaun, Gasol, K.Thomas, and Nene

    Rafer Alston I saw him doing this his last few months in Toronto.
    and....
    Richard Jefferson became a worse rebounder and he improved his scoring because he got a three point shot and became a better free throw shooter, but his improvement wasn't anything big.
    Stephen Jackson had no improvement but his minute and his scoring, and that was due to him going to Atlanta where he got more shots.
     
  6. gmanspack

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    Improving in the Summer is still part of the season, doesn't matter when you improve
     
  7. B.e.

    B.e. The One Who Score Touchdowns and Spikes Mics

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    This smells like bs, I thought he be in the running for MIP.
     
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    Dang, I thought him and Manu would be after Randolph. It's crazy.
     
  9. og15

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting gmanspack:</div><div class="quote_post">Improving in the Summer is still part of the season, doesn't matter when you improve</div>

    Huh?
    I don't think anyone said it wasn't, where did that come from.


    I also don't know where you heard that he got no votes.

    Player, Team 1st 2nd 3rd Pts
    Zach Randolph, Portland 59 21 21 379
    Carlos Boozer, Cleveland 12 30 16 166
    James Posey, Memphis 17 14 10 137
    Andrei Kirilenko, Utah 11 12 10 101
    Michael Redd, Milwaukee 9 12 14 95
    Lamar Odom, Miami 1 8 2 31
    Jamaal Magloire, New Orleans 3 3 2 21
    Samuel Dalembert, Phi. 3 2 4 25
    Joe Johnson, Phoenix 1 4 3 20
    Brian Cardinal, Golden State 1 3 4 18
    Rafer Alston, Miami 2 1 3 16
    Mark Blount, Boston 0 3 1 10
    Carlos Arroyo, Utah 0 1 5 8
    Quentin Richardson, Clippers 1 1 0 8
    Ronald Murray, Seattle 0 1 4 7
    Ron Artest, Indiana 1 0 2 7
    Yao Ming, Houston 0 1 4 7
    Erick Dampier,Golden State 0 1 2 5
    Richard Jefferson, New Jersey 0 0 4 4
    Corey Maggette, L.A. Clippers 0 1 0 3
    Mike Dunleavy, Golden State 0 1 0 3
    Manu Ginobili, San Antonio 0 1 0 3
    Tayshaun Prince, Detroit 0 0 2 2
    Jason Williams, Memphis 0 0 1 1
    Stephen Jackson, Atlanta 0 0 1 1
    Pau Gasol, Memphis 0 0 1 1
    Marcus Camby, Denver 0 0 1 1
    Desmond Mason, Milwaukee 0 0 1 1
    Kenny Thomas, Philadelphia 0 0 1 1
    Raja Bell, Utah 0 0 1 1
    Nene Hilario, Denver 0 0 1 1

    http://www.nba.com/news/randolph_040422.html
     
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    I'm glad Kirilenko got voted for, especially Odom, they've really brought out his true game in the Heat, same goes for Cassell in the Timberwolves. They've always been good. I think they felt the same could be said for Redd, he just wasn't played, he deserves it as well, I wanted it to be a CO-Award. Thing is, it isn't, they must've been looking at it from an overall impact or team improvement stand point.
     
  11. Henacy

    Henacy JBB The Man like Sam

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    I agree with Og15, the improvement of Micheal Redd was kind of expected. Everybody knew that he was going to put up big # once Ray Allen & Sam Cassell was gone. We seen the improvements of Micheal Redd all last season. When Ray Allen was injured those games before he got trade for Gary Payton, Micheal Redd would start & put up big #. The main reason why the Bucks let Allen & Cassell go was to allow a guy like Redd to get increased minutes because they knew he was ready to become a serious player in the NBA. Its hard to get alot votes for most improved player when alot of people are expecting your # to go up before the season even starts. But that takes nothing away from what Redd has done this season.
     
  12. gmanspack

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    The full standings weren't out when I posted this, only the top three, it stunned me that Posey was 3rd over more deserving Redd, Kirilinko and Odom
     

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