Regardless of faith: do you believe the bible is the word of god?

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  1. PapaG

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    I'm the old and jaded version of my former self.

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    Yes, it defines the work of an Apostle as establishing the Faith of Jesus Christ.

    Since "Christianity" has already been established; there is no need for Apostles. Also, an Apostle must bear witness to Jesus Christ:

    and

    Last time I checked, the mormon faith was only in 19th century. I wasn't aware that Christ resurected then.

    Also, Jesus must hand pick the apostle:

    So here is my summary of why there are no apostles today.

    1.) Apostles served as a foundation for the early church.

    2.) They must have seen Jesus after his resurection.

    3.) Apostles must be hand picked by Jesus.

    4.) Must have miracle working power to be an apostle.
     
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    my answer to the thread question:




    no.
     
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    Here is an interesting overview of the skeptical take on the question (for those that are interested):

    http://www.dbskeptic.com/2011/06/08/the-bible-word-of-god-or-myth-of-men/

     
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    Yep and that's why I believe the King James Version is the word of God. And more importantly, the New Testament; which is the blueprint and map to accepting Jesus Christ as your Savior. Everything else is important, but not even remotely important as understanding, accepting and embracing Jesus Christ our Lord God.
     
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    When people talk this, I just can't help but think - brainwash.

    You say that (accept Jesus, etc), but where does this idea come from?

    Men.

    Where did they get it?

    They claim god talked to them.

    Them, but not you.

    Doesn't that make you feel special?

    Did you read the article in the link? I only quoted a small portion.

    You realize that most bible scholars (most are christians) do not believe that any of the many sacred texts of christianity (many bibles) are the word of god (some believe divinely inspired in part), nor do they believe that the King James version is special in any particular way. The idea that King James is the word of god is common among laypeople and tv preachers (who are not scholars for the most part).
     
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    Simple.

     
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    Yeah it's not that hard. If others think I'm brainwashed, then so be it. You can't tell me I'm wrong when I feel soooooo right! ;)
     
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    in other words you don't care if you're right as long as what you believe feels good
     
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    So, is what you believe supposed to make you feel crappy? To me, that would be idiotic.
     
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    objective truth has no regard for feelings either way
     
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    Objective truth. Nice and tidy, turn-key, easy peasey, and ready to go. I'm all in, baby.
     
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    Nothing on that anti-bible article swayed my opinion that's it's gods word.
     
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    This raises an interesting thought experiment. Theoretically speaking, is there any evidence - any evidence at all - that could possibly convince you that you are wrong about God, the Bible, and everything?
     
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    Well I am open to anything, but like a son loving their father; I have this same emotional contact with my God. It is a heart-felt Faith, as confident as if I was in love.

    Now keep in mind that I was a hell of a skeptic before I was saved. In fact, I actually was on the other end of the spectrum. I got into witch-craft, dark magic and very gothic styles. I did it more as a rebellion because I didn't believe in Heaven or Hell. God or Satan. It was a mockery-type of practice.
     
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    But again, what exactly would you accept as evidence that you are wrong? What would it take? Would you only be swayed by a change in the feeling in your heart?
     
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    Mags, no middle ground for you then?
     
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    To add, I would ask what does his unshakable faith have to do with an ancient book?
     
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    Easy -- it's his unshakable faith in an ancient book that I'm curious about.
     
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    Without that ancient book to guide me into the right direction. This unmistakable faith happened when I read the bible as a skeptic. The impression it made on me felt supernatural. It was like if I felt concerned about an issue, I would randomly read a passage and it would talk about my concern and how to deal with it. It was the ultimate muse in my life. The holy spirit talked to my heart and the bible confirmed just what my soul was needing at the time.

    So it would be hard to disprove this to me. It's right for me. God is right for me. The king James bible is right for me.
     

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