Game Thread Regular Season - #60 - Clippers @ Bulls

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  1. Denny Crane

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    My evaluation is that he's not a studly 3pt shooter. For a PF, better than some.

    It's the FT's that help his TS%.

    His TS% is worse than Gasol's. His PER is 7 less than Gasol's, but roughly the same as Taj's.

    I think I've made it clear all along that I'd have traded Taj for wing help and given Mirotic all of Taj's minutes.
     
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    And not for nothing, Andrew Wiggins' TS is only .510, as compared to Mirotic's .548. Andrew Wiggins' top line stats look better in a vacuum, with him shooting
    .438 from the field, and .347 from three. We're just really bad at eyeballing these things.
     
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    Wiggins started out really slow. I think people are saying he's running away with ROY due to his more recent play.

    FWIW
     
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    Okay, yeah makes sense. I was just trying to argue with Isola regarding Mirotic's efficiency.
     
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    Look at Wiggins starting around Christmas time. All of a sudden, lots of 20 point games.

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    Oh, I'm not arguing Mirotic should be in contention for ROY. Wiggins is better now, and he almost certainly will be in the future too. He's been killing it.

    I think the Wolves came away with the two best prospects from this years' draft with Wiggins and LaVine. That's going to be the most fun team to watch very soon.
     
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    I'm very sanguine about Mirotic's ability to be a very efficient offensive player. I wouldn't be surprised if he eventually attains Dirk-like efficiency, even though he probably won't have Dirk-like usage.

    Big guys who can create their own shot, get to the rim, and shoot 3's are very useful to have on offense.

    I think his 3-pt shooting is likely to improve and I expect it to be close to 40% when he gets acclimated to the league. He's proven to be a very good shooter in the Euro leagues and has a very quick stroke. It's also not uncommon for even great shooters to take a while to find their stroke when they enter the league.

    Korver, Reggie Miller and Ray Allen were all sub 0.400% shooters when they came into the league.

    I think Niko's going to be a +0.600% shooter for the bulk of his career.

    Fun question: has anyone with a more Dirk-like game entered the league since Dirk himself? I'm talking about tools and style of play, not statistical output.
     
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    Off the top of my head:

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bargnan01.html
     
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